Comments on Nuke Pro: Household Electrical Usage, What Kind of Conservation Makes Sense?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/02/12/musk_to_un...

2015-02-15T23:25:46.728-08:00

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/02/12/musk_to_unveil_home_storage_battery/

No matter where you are, Theremino you go!

2015-01-03T19:48:30.733-08:00

No matter where you are, Theremino you go!

@Dud, thats funny, if it make you sound like an ex...

2014-12-30T18:46:50.380-08:00

@Dud, thats funny, if it make you sound like an expert....and other believe in the ignorance of experts....then.....lol

Some LEDS are not cost effective.

Ah, WHPPSS! The Feynman quote makes me sound like...

2014-12-30T17:38:47.915-08:00

Ah, WHPPSS!

The Feynman quote makes me sound like an expert ... in ignorance!

I am truly sorry stock. I meant no offense by that quote.

Disclosure: I have no relationship whatsoever wit...

2014-12-29T16:16:43.054-08:00

Disclosure: I have no relationship whatsoever with the following company either:

http://www.smartclima.com/air-conditioner-energy-saver

This is not for advertising their product unsolicited, but for fair usage. It is not an endorsement nor is it intended to verify their claims (am skeptical about winter usage; be that as it may). It is to promote open exchanges of ideas to save this continent and others from slavery of manifold kinds.

Hey, that seems a variation on PlowboyGrownUp's link to evaporative cooling!

http://enenews.com/fukushima-rocked-strongest-quakes-hit-country-month-footage-nuke-plant-shows-shaking-minute-top-japan-newspaper-major-quake-disasters-could-strike-anywhere-nation-great-increases-perceived-probabil/comment-page-2#comment-620426

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pot-in-pot_refrigerator

Proverbs 19: "Better is the poor that walketh in his integrity, than he that is perverse in his lips, and is a fool."

Title: "Don't Be LED Down The Garden Pat...

2014-12-29T15:22:23.045-08:00

Title: "Don't Be LED Down The Garden Path (Part 3) - EFFICIENCY AND LIFE EXPECTANCY OF "WHITE" LEDs"
Quote: "Hearing a lot about "white" LEDs? So are we. We hear things like "50,000-hour life" and "huge energy savings." That sounds terrific. But, let's see the numbers!

LEDs are current sensitive. An LED circuit needs to regulate current to the LED as the LED's temperature changes. It needs to do this for each LED individually. You can't have one LED burning out and taking out the whole array like a string of old style Christmas lights. You dim LEDs by limiting current, not voltage. A rheostat won't do it. All this requires very sophisticated, and not terribly efficient circuitry."

... "Regular electric lamp life is measured by the average age (under absolutely ideal conditions) at which they fail. We know that overdriving LEDs can make them brighter, but it significantly shortens their life. We also know that LEDs tend to change color and loose intensity as they age. While LEDs advertise extremely long life numbers, one begins to wonder just how useful those final years of life truly will be.

The chart above along with reported research by RPI shows that under the good conditions LEDs can be expected to loose 40 percent of their intensity in the first 4000 hours. Under overdrive conditions the graph seems to indicate that this loss can be as much as 90 percent. With new products coming out almost daily it will be some time before really accurate life data is available. Bear in mind simple life testing itself (running 24/7) will take eight years. We are on uncharted ground. But, it would be best not to count too heavily on extended life until test data is available.

Finally, keep a eye on LEDs. There is a tremendous amount of R&D going into LEDs and some of these hurdles may be overcome."
http://www.nouvir.com/index.cfm?ref=90200&ref2=10

Disclosure: I have no relationship, professional, personal or financial, with the aforementioned company. They have a neat sounding sales pitch on the main page. Their book store has one title that i believe Ontological might recommend (another source of?) titled "QED The Strange Theory of Light and Matter" by Richard P. Feynman. http://www.nouvir.com/index.cfm?ref=16100&ref2=4&StartRow=5

Quote of Richard P. Feynman: "Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts."

Perhaps it might be worthy to note manufacturer's warranty length and conditions when planning a purchase.

What do i know? I might as well be a MacDonald's worker! Pay grade? I pay attention. There are slave-labor immigrants that have higher pay-grades than me. Money ain't everything though. Even i can make a positive contribution in this world. I am living proof.

So can you, the reader.

(to the tune of Salt-N-Pepa's "Push It!") "Tip it real good!"

From the commercial site, NoUViR: Title: "D...

2014-12-29T15:20:50.221-08:00

From the commercial site, NoUViR:

Title: "Don't Be LED Down The Garden Path (Part 1) - COLOR IN "WHITE" LEDs"
Quote: "Just so you know where we're going with this series, LEDs are great for a lot of things. Unfortunately, lighting art and artifacts isn't one of them. For low-voltage, intermittent use, monochromatic color (RGB or even Y), or long life, LEDs can't be beat. But they don't do so well where color rendition is important or UV is a problem. And wired together in banks, they loose a lot of their reported efficiency. People are making lots and lots of claims for LEDs right now. Lets take a look at LED lighting."
... "And, we wouldn't be NoUVIR if we didn't remind you that none of these sources meet IESNA guidelines for museum (or commercial) lighting by filtering all non-visible radiation. No UV, no IR: NoUVIR."
http://www.nouvir.com/index.cfm?ref=90200&ref2=8

Title: "Don't Be LED Down The Garden Path (Part 2) - UV AND IR IN "WHITE" LEDs"
Quote: "The problem is, lighting manufacturers tend to limit their data to the visible range. Until recently UV and IR were not considered problems. Then they either extrapolate (believe without testing) that the data continues along the same curves, or if they know better, they let you believe that the data continues along the same curves.

The fact is that it doesn't. The low points at the end of the visible range are not the tail ends of the LED spectral outputs, they are simply low points (valleys) in the data. You need to know that significant UV and IR emissions continue past the data points most manufacturers show you."

... "The photo above shows a UVX Radiometer using a 200nm-300nm head (UVB and UVC) in the actual testing of a major brand "white" LED luminaire. The meter shows a UV output of 3.8"W/cm2 for their "cool white" LEDS. The spectral power distribution from the manufacturer's website shows peak output for this LED to be roughly the same intensity, 3.7"W/ cm2. Their "warm white" LEDs show even worse results, a peak output of 1.9"W/cm2 and a short wave UV output of 2.9"W/cm2. The bottom line is that these fixtures put out as much UV as they do blue light."
http://www.nouvir.com/index.cfm?ref=90200&ref2=9

Almost no households have a "time of day"...

2014-12-29T13:52:33.117-08:00

Almost no households have a "time of day" consumption, its just a straight cost regardless of time of day. Give the consumer a break, they have other things to worry about than when they turn a switch on....such as getting raped by bankers and corrupt politicians who are purchased puppets.

Yes your local utility may have an incentive to help buydown cost of new frig.

Ya, the 240V conversion would require a new 240V a...

2014-12-29T13:49:42.790-08:00

Ya, the 240V conversion would require a new 240V and make sure heating element is up to it also.

BC Hydro had a rebate program to buy back old refr...

2014-12-29T13:03:14.825-08:00

BC Hydro had a rebate program to buy back old refridgerators from residential customers for $30.oo each. They stated buying a new fridge could save $90.oo in electricity per year.

(Sadly, many Americans and Eastern Canadians seem to think "BC Hydro" is a strain of marijuana.)

Other jurisdictions might have similar programs or rebates concerning fridge purchases.

Is it not also important to note if an utility is charging a customer based at least partly upon time-of-day consumption?

Yes, that is the same "Dr. Bill" formerl...

2014-12-29T12:51:16.756-08:00

Yes, that is the same "Dr. Bill" formerly of KGO 810AM, whom i used to listen to, until the denial exhibited by him concerning Fukushima drove me away.

Check out his resume. http://wattenburg.us/index.html

Is he not also a "father of fracking" done basically on a dare (iirc)? http://wattenburg.us/directionaldrilling.html

Quote from page 81/114: "This means that an enormous amount of energy is being wasted on our power grids during peak demand times."

#1 - purchase a small (less than or equal to 15A) ...

2014-12-29T12:35:07.425-08:00

#1 - purchase a small (less than or equal to 15A) power meter to verify consumption.

Also, correct me if i'm wrong, but wouldn't inputting 240VAC into a heater/pump rated at 120 VAC have some undesireable safety and equipment lifespan consequences? (Solar heat for the hot tub?)

Manufacturer's product warranty seems to speak to expected product life-span.
If your new washer only ships with a one year warranty, don't just walk away, RUN! :P

Voltage Reduction was a viable strategem employed by California to relieve the so-called "energy crisis" in the early 2000's, as proposed by Dr. Willard Wattenburg of Lawrence Livermore.
http://www.energy.ca.gov/2006publications/CEC-500-2006-058/CEC-500-2006-058.PDF

See starting pg. 73 of 114.

Public money paid for that study. "They" tried to quash it. "They" failed.

Title: "Emergency Voltage Reduction Experiments, Proposals, and Utility Company Reactions During the California Energy Crisis 2000-2001"

A.K.A. "EVR"

Quote from page 77/114: "Laboratory tests showed no adverse effect of low voltages whatsoever on domestic appliances and commercial equipment when the voltage was as low as 100 volts (equivalent 200 volts for "240 volt" equipment). The biggest surprise came from the greatest domestic load on our power grids during summertime. Comprehensive tests showed that the most popular home air conditioner's continue to run well at voltages as low as 200 volts. In fact, they are most efficient at around 200 volts, not the standard 240 volts. Their power factor actually increases with lower voltage down to 200 volts. The drop in power output of the air conditioner motors is insignificant from 240 down to 200 volts. But the overall EER energy efficiency ratio (BTU's of heat transferred versus power consumed) actually improves slightly down to 200 volts."

For an electrician or electrical engineer alike, it makes for riveting reading. It is a bitch of a document to quote though.

Perhaps that might help those off-grid?