Comments on Nuke Pro: WIPP A Nuclear Disaster In 2014 In New Mexico and How to Understand It

The football field is one hundred sixty-feet broad...

2017-11-05T15:34:46.200-08:00

The football field is one hundred sixty-feet broad.

right on Cisco, please stop in and participate oft...

2015-05-06T08:53:38.891-07:00

right on Cisco, please stop in and participate often. stock out

Great read and info stock and thank you for your c...

2015-05-05T13:46:57.602-07:00

Great read and info stock and thank you for your continued good works!

Cisco

Thank you Stock,for your always informative and en...

2015-01-01T17:35:27.749-08:00

Thank you Stock,for your always informative and enlightening posts!

Stock, Just want you to know the 1st commenter, &...

2014-07-06T18:09:58.063-07:00

Stock,
Just want you to know the 1st commenter, "Douglas", is not the same one who's been commenting in Conca's Forbes'.

This is the Douglas who comments @ Forbes.

Identify the IP address, and note the "chicanery"!

Yeah!

At FCF: Indeed I pegged the trolls IP and its at O...

2014-06-07T10:09:09.569-07:00

At FCF: Indeed I pegged the trolls IP and its at Oak Ridge, imagine that.

this troll has been everywhere .... check IP addre...

2014-04-25T10:40:22.167-07:00

this troll has been everywhere .... check IP address ...

Don't just drop a Turd, elaborate on your conc...

2014-04-20T21:14:25.956-07:00

Don't just drop a Turd, elaborate on your concerns and be specific.

And maybe comment on your pay website that prior to becoming paid, encouraged people to buy precious metals at near peak prices. thank you for the response.

This really isnt very scientific.

2014-04-20T21:07:14.897-07:00

This really isnt very scientific.

@Red Craig, I wish Disqus allowed a partial edit o...

2014-04-05T09:14:00.844-07:00

@Red Craig, I wish Disqus allowed a partial edit on comments that do not comply with blog guidleine, similar to what the NRC would do on their blog, which I frequent. I someone gets a little too ranty, or is just basically slinging mud....then those comments are worthless and degrade from the blog and the valuable time of the people who visit. As such, your comment made no specific allegation or value added, taking a shotgun approach to "hysterical" and "fear mongers"

Please add value and your comments will be appreciated even if they go against our well studied, and decidedly anti-nuclear stance,

stock out

Holy crap, that is spot on. Why aren't these w...

2014-04-05T03:36:19.325-07:00

Holy crap, that is spot on. Why aren't these wipp incidents made public? And how in the hell does a 13 Curie source just go missing? Now that's bullshit!! Guess we can gather their drum loading protocol is total BS. One thing I'm curious about is the fire contractor. Don't you have to meet certain criteria before becoming a contractor for the government? I didn't think any fly by night company could get a contract??

I find your research flawed and incredulous.

2014-03-31T06:44:25.255-07:00

I find your research flawed and incredulous.

It's on DOE'S website, but you have to hav...

2014-03-29T12:47:45.982-07:00

It's on DOE'S website, but you have to have a sign in to access it. (Q clearance) The Plutonium Berillium source was accidentally thrown into a drum at another facility then shipped to WIPP. The rad tech that caught it at wipp, noted on his survey the drum was over 300 m/Rem (millirem) Neutron radiation an hour @ 30 cm !! WOW Upon trying to locate the worker that shipped the source, it was noted he no longer worked for the company (conviently) so no further information was available!!!! Wow !!

People of carlsbad, STOP BELIEVING WHAT THE DOE SA...

2014-03-29T12:36:01.626-07:00

People of carlsbad, STOP BELIEVING WHAT THE DOE SAYS AND DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!! True, Alpha emitters (Plutonium) are of little danger dose wise. Alpha radiation cannot perpetrate the skin, so this is a half truth they are telling you because Plutonium if inhaled or ingested is one of if not the most toxic materials on the face of the planet. That is what they aren't telling you!! Think of it as cyanide:If your standing next to it sitting in a bottle or laying on a table (external dose) little problem. BUT inhale it or ingest it (internal or uptake)...HUGE FREAKING PROBLEM!
Quit listening to their half truths..it's going to get you cancer or killed. How can you be so ignorant??

@anon, can you provide link to WIPP backup on safe...

2014-03-29T12:17:06.793-07:00

@anon, can you provide link to WIPP backup on safety violations.

Must be Berillium 10? The only one with long half life?

Here what I found on my own search. WIPP ' s s...

2014-03-29T12:09:17.423-07:00

Here what I found on my own search. WIPP ' s safety record is as deceitful as we thought! There are numerous permit violations that have been swept under the rug! Cesium uptake, worker almost killed in parking lot, backfalls, non-compliance on numerous incidents. They even had a 13 Curie Pu-Be source that made it into their waste stream and got stored in the underground before anyone caught it! That is WAY past their acceptance criteria. The safety company quoted above has been the service provider on numerous fires where the systems were either installed or serviced by this company! Ansul said the system that was installed on the truck that caught fire should have been more than adequate to extinguish the fire if the system was working and had been properly serviced, period. That system even had an automatic detection device that didn't need human interaction to activate! Report after the fire said it had been turned off!!???!! So in my feeble mind, I'm wondering who the owner of this "safety" company is related to??!!

At anon, thanks for the safety company name. If ...

2014-03-27T21:09:10.098-07:00

At anon, thanks for the safety company name. If you can research it more and provide some details that will be great, I will also crowd source the information/research

Sorry so long, what I could find was the service c...

2014-03-27T16:39:51.873-07:00

Sorry so long, what I could find was the service company's name is Southwest Safety Specialists. The system is an Ansul system and he is NOT listed as a distributor on their Web site. I don't remember the names of the clay formation but 20 years ago we called it clay "G" and they used to mine the roof along this line until they had some problems in panel 2 and learned the clay was acting as a slip sheet and not allowing the salt to close in uniformly. There are several layers of salt formations and plenty of info on net. Thanks again.

Stock, mail for you. Please check mail again. Some...

2014-03-27T13:16:39.542-07:00

Stock, mail for you. Please check mail again. Something we discussed yesterday & you were waiting for it.

@Dud, thanks for responding to the "backgroun...

2014-03-26T00:15:55.767-07:00

@Dud, thanks for responding to the "background apologist"

the amount truly natural Pu from a very rare reaction of uranium is like 1 in a Trlllion....

Hate to burst your bubble, but quote "Man has...

2014-03-25T23:36:10.924-07:00

Hate to burst your bubble, but quote "Man has been living on a radioactive planet since the days of burning coal" because of the radioisotopic content of said coal. Oxidizing such radioisotopes was an amazing delivery method as it was both solid at room temperature and water soluble.
What was it? Out of a 112 boxcar train, at least the contents of one or two were Uranium?

That is certainly an artificial process.

Quote: ..." radiation instrument technology has emerged a quantum leap above the previous generation that the minutest amount of transuranics can be detected."

Good luck making a room clean enough for those kinds of detections with today's "new background" levels. Somebody needs to learn how to harness all that free background bullshit now, as it might be enough to power a small mobile.

Quote: "Yes, you are spot on on your assessm...

2014-03-25T23:22:25.513-07:00

Quote: "Yes, you are spot on on your assessment of Pu inhalation, but we can NOT state that to general public or we would have never got any nuke plant off the drawing paper."

It's too late to stop them.
If only we had come to our senses earlier.

Instead of "Atoms For Peace", it appears we have "pieces of atoms", as a "trickle-down" affect.

I wonder if the seismic equipment malfunctions had anything to do with any possible unforseen nearby drilling, etc.

Is Hydrogen able to act as an oxidizer in the context of such storage?

Thanks, gentlemen.

Quote: "There is probably no other industry ...

2014-03-25T23:06:32.968-07:00

Quote: "There is probably no other industry that can boast of such a record."

An old friend (called common sense) told me once that if something seems too good to be true, it probably is.

thanks for the comments. True, even, maybe espe...

2014-03-24T22:33:58.810-07:00

thanks for the comments. True, even, maybe especially professionals trained in a business come to believe the lies they have been told. I see it all the time in the nuclear industry.

Q1: name of fire suppresion inspection company if you know it?
Q2: What about the layering of clay, iron, ash on WIPP salt formations

As a retired nuke professional let me state what I...

2014-03-24T20:55:38.050-07:00

As a retired nuke professional let me state what I know and what rumors I hear... lol
Yes, you are spot on on your assessment of Pu inhalation, but we can NOT state that to general public or we would have never got any nuke plant off the drawing paper. Also, I myself was one of these dose is dose guys for years. I now fully comprehend dose is not dose when you take into account an uptake. If dose was dose, why are so many of my friends dying or dead from Rocky Flats. So, basically we spread the lie so long that we as professionals even believe it, but hey somebody has got to do the work.
Now what I hear, there was off gassing in panel 7, I heard major VOC's and the bosses were warned. I imagine a lot of it was more than likely Hydrogen. When the fire broke out, the fire system on the truck and a fire extinguisher both failed! They both were serviced by a fire suppression company that isn't very reputable and rumor has it there may have been kickbacks given to keep this lush contract. I was told this company isn't even supposed to be working on these systems as he isn't an authorized service rep by this manufacturer. I looked it up and found this to be a true statement. So, the audit did prove the system didn't work as stated. When the complex shifted into filtration mode, the air flow was greatly slowed and the "believed" result was a type of back Draft explosion from the offgasing fumes traveling down to the fire and then flashing back into the active panel resulting in an explosion. Yes I looked at and pulled the doe report on the fire. Also I got a tip the seismic equipment has not worked in years and sure enough..There is a lack of reporting on this subject. Now, as far as ground stability is concerned there is as HUGE difference between salt domes like in Houston and the salt the WIPP is built in. These ancient sea beds and layered with clay, iron, ash, etc. NOT like salt domes.. (hint hint) So, the million dollar question for me is : Who kept this fire system company in business and are they going to prosecute them? Why risk workers lives? Fill it full of cement...have we started pumping yet?
I'll look back for questions and answer when I can.
God Bless with this mess.