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It’s “mechanically impossible.” That’s the verdict from experts on the official story of Charlie Kirk’s attacker. We are being told a 22-year-old disassembled an antique WWI-era rifle, fit it in a normal backpack, snuck onto a roof, reassembled it, and made a perfect shot. Joe Rogan and Candace Owens are calling it what it is: an illogical lie. This narrative is designed to close the case, not solve it. The truth about the weapon and the attacker is being deliberately hidden.
Uncategorized thutw · 01/11/2025 · 0 Comment

The official story is clean, simple, and closed. On September 10, 2025, conservative activist Charlie Kirk, a titan of new-media politics, was fatally struck down while giving a live speech at Utah Valley University. Within hours, authorities had their man: 22-year-old Tyler Robinson. The case was declared solved, a tragic but straightforward act by a lone, troubled individual. The media reported it, the public absorbed it, and the political world prepared to move on.
But the truth, it seems, refuses to be buried.
In the weeks following the incident, a counternarrative has begun to tear through the silence, one that paints the official story not just as incomplete, but as a deliberate, crafted lie. Now, two of the biggest voices in independent media, Joe Rogan and Candace Owens, have brought new, explosive information to the forefront. These aren’t just theories; they are devastating critiques of the official narrative, backed by insider testimony and expert analysis.
The story is getting more confusing, more explosive, and far darker. From premonitions of death by Kirk himself to “mechanically impossible” logistics and forensic evidence that directly contradicts the official report, the case is unraveling. And as Rogan and Owens dig deeper, they are uncovering a story of betrayal, distraction, and a potential cover-up that goes to the very heart of American political power.
The story you were told is not the truth. This is the story of what’s being hidden.
Chapter 1: The Haunting Premonition
Perhaps the most chilling revelation has come from Candace Owens, a close friend and colleague of Kirk’s. In a recent, emotionally raw podcast, Owens revealed information that shifts the entire context of the event from a random tragedy to a premeditated assassination.
“The very day before Charlie Kirk died,” Owens stated, her voice heavy, “he expressed that he thought he was going to be killed. He told these people, ‘I think they’re going to kill me.’”
This wasn’t a vague feeling of unease. According to Owens, Kirk had this specific, dire conversation with three separate people, all of whom she trusts implicitly. “Two people,” she added, “have this in a written communication.”
Stop and think about the weight of that. This isn’t a rumor. It’s a first-hand account from a source who was in Kirk’s inner circle, alleging that the victim himself knew his life was in imminent danger. The immediate, terrifying question that springs from this is: Who is “they”?
Owens, clearly shaken, wrestled with this question live for her audience. She explained she had held onto this information for over a week, verifying it, before deciding to speak. She pleaded for these three individuals to come forward, to give courage to others who might know what was happening behind the scenes.
“I am saying this because I hope that these people who I think are good will be inspired to come forward,” she said. “Maybe tell us who is ‘they’ for once and for all.”
The implication of Kirk’s fear is staggering. It suggests he was aware of a specific threat, not from a random, unknown entity, but from a “they” he could identify. This leads directly to the second part of Owens’ revelation, a confession that is, in its own way, just as shocking.
“It has made me lose faith in politics,” Owens admitted. “It has made me fully lose faith in Trump.”
This statement has sent shockwaves through the conservative movement. Owens is alluding to a deep, profound betrayal. She describes a cold, mechanical world of power where people are merely assets to be used and discarded. “When power no longer needs you,” she said, “they simply walk away as if you never existed.”
The insinuation is dark and unmistakable. She is suggesting that Kirk, having devoted his life to a political cause and to the people within it, was betrayed by those very same people. While she stopped short of a direct accusation, her “loss of faith in Trump” in the same breath as her friend’s potential murder paints a horrifying picture.
Was Charlie Kirk betrayed by his own side? Did he know too much, or was he simply no longer a “fit” in a larger scheme? His own words, “I think they’re going to kill me,” have become a haunting epitaph that demands an answer, an answer the official report completely ignores.
Chapter 2: The “Mechanically Impossible” Narrative
The official story of how Charlie Kirk was killed is just as full of holes as the “why.” The narrative we are meant to believe is that 22-year-old Tyler Robinson, acting alone, executed the entire event with the precision of a trained black-ops professional, but with the tools of a hobbyist.
This is where Joe Rogan, known for his relentless grilling of flawed logic, has taken aim.
The official report claims Robinson used an “antique shotgun,” a relic from World War I that belonged to his grandfather. He allegedly disassembled this century-old weapon, concealed it within a standard backpack, gained access to a roof 14 feet above the event, reassembled it without issue, and then made a perfectly precise shot.
On his podcast, Rogan, who has extensive experience with firearms and tactical experts, didn’t just question this story—he laughed at it. “It’s mechanically impossible,” he stated bluntly.
Let’s dissect this. Candace Owens also piled on, pointing out the sheer absurdity. “Do you know how long it would take to do that even with professional skills?” she asked. “And you think that thing would fit in a normal backpack? It can’t be. This story is completely illogical.”
First, consider the weapon itself. An antique WWI-era firearm is not a modern, modular rifle. It’s long, heavy, and made of wood and steel. Disassembling it requires tools, time, and specific knowledge. Reassembling it, especially under pressure, to a state where it is perfectly functional and accurate, is an even taller order. The idea that this assembly would fit neatly into a school backpack is, as Rogan suggests, laughable.
Second, there is the issue of access and security. “How did he get to the roof without anyone noticing,” Owens demanded, “without anyone seeing anything? Without security checks, without drones watching? It’s unbelievable.”
A high-profile, live-broadcast political event featuring a figure like Charlie Kirk would be saturated with security, both private and police. The claim that a 22-year-old carrying a backpack full of antique gun parts could simply stroll onto a secure rooftop vantage point undetected stretches credulity to its breaking point.
Finally, there’s the escape. The source material mentions a video of the suspect “jumping” from a 14-foot height. Was this a desperate leap, or part of a staged scene? It all feels too convenient, too neat. As Rogan concluded, “If everything fits so perfectly, then maybe it was never completely true in the first place.”
The entire official narrative of the lone gunman hinges on this “impossible” sequence of events. It asks us to believe in a scenario that defies logic, physics, and the realities of modern security. It feels less like an investigation and more like a script, one designed to provide a quick, simple answer and shut down any further questions.
Chapter 3: The Forensic Contradiction
If the logistical holes weren’t enough to sink the official story, the forensic evidence might be the final nail in its coffin.
This bombshell, again dropped by Candace Owens, is perhaps the single most important piece of evidence to emerge. According to her sources, the physical evidence found at the scene does not match the alleged weapon.
Owens described it in detail: “According to the forensic reports, there was a direct non-penetrating impact mark along with a small piece of metal that was supposedly found near the neck, near the spine, and aligned with the shoulder blade.”
This detail is critical. As Owens explained, such a trajectory creates a clear blueprint of what happened. But here is the devastating contradiction: “Investigators had never found a bullet that matched the type of weapon they released in the report.”
The metal fragment, she claims, did not match the grandfather’s antique shotgun “at all.” Not in size, not in alloy, and not in its mechanical characteristics.
This is not a small inconsistency. This is a case-destroying contradiction.
If the projectile that struck Charlie Kirk did not come from Tyler Robinson’s alleged rifle, the entire case against him evaporates. It means the official narrative, the one that closed the case in mere hours, is built on a fundamental lie.
It raises two terrifying questions:
What kind of device was actually used? A “small piece of metal” and a “non-penetrating impact” sounds vastly different from a blast from a “WWI antique shotgun.” It suggests something else entirely, something potentially more sophisticated.
If the antique gun wasn’t the weapon, then what was its purpose? Was it a plant? A piece of stage-setting to create a convenient story and a convenient suspect?
Owens revealed she had this information for over a week, checking it with multiple reliable sources before going public. “This isn’t speculation or internet rumors,” she insisted. “It’s confirmed evidence.”
And yet, the major media outlets remain silent. Why? “Because,” Owens concluded, “if this information were widely released, the entire official story would collapse. And they know it.”
The entire case hinges on a gun that doesn’t match the evidence. The public has been sold a lie, and the real weapon—and the person who wielded it—is still a mystery.
Chapter 4: The Decoy and the Distraction
While Candace Owens was focused on the betrayal and the forensics, Joe Rogan zeroed in on another element of the scene that day, one that seems ripped from a spy thriller: the decoy.
“There was that one guy who is the decoy,” Rogan explained on his show. “You got this guy who’s an older guy who starts yelling out… ‘He took his pants down!’”
This mysterious figure, an elderly man, appeared in the crowd shortly after the incident and began causing a commotion. Witnesses described him shouting incomprehensible words, including, according to some, “I did it!” His actions were bizarre, chaotic, and served one clear purpose: to draw all eyes to him at the most critical moment.
As Rogan pointed out, “This strange outburst may have distracted the crowd at the right moment, allowing the key details of the incident to be lost in the noise and confusion.”
But the story gets infinitely stranger. This man, Rogan alleges, is no random stranger. “This guy,” he said, “was at 9/11. He was at the Boston bombings. He called in a fake bomb at another place… every place of conflict, every scene of chaos, he appears.”
This is the classic “crisis actor” trope, a figure who seems to shadow American tragedies. Rogan’s point is clear: “When the same face appears in different scenes, that’s no longer a coincidence. It’s a signal that this story is much deeper.”
The final, perfect twist? Just as people began to notice this man and his impossible history, he was suddenly arrested on “completely unrelated charges” from a different offense. Just like that, he was “disappeared” into the legal system, unavailable for questioning, his purpose served.
Rogan calls this “deliberate distortion,” a “carefully orchestrated obfuscation.”
You have an impossible crime, a suspect who doesn’t fit, a weapon that doesn’t match the evidence, and now, a professional decoy creating chaos on the ground. This no longer looks like the work of a 22-year-old lone gunman. It looks like a coordinated, professional operation designed to confuse, misdirect, and control the narrative from the very first second.
Chapter 5: The Media’s Bizarre Spin
As if the inconsistencies weren’t enough, the media’s handling of the story has only added fuel to the fire. Instead of investigating the gaping holes, some outlets have been actively pushing bizarre counter-theories that seem designed to deflect from the truth.
Rogan singled out one major network, MSNBC, for pushing a particularly “ridiculous” argument. On a live broadcast, the host posited a new theory: maybe the whole thing was a tragic accident caused by one of Kirk’s own supporters.
“An enthusiastic fan may have gone overboard celebrating the campus event,” the host suggested. “We don’t know. Maybe it was just someone shooting a celebratory shot like at a big gathering.”
Joe Rogan’s reaction was one of pure disbelief. “What? It’s Independence Day?” he responded with complete sarcasm. “That doesn’t make sense.”
This narrative is a masterful piece of “distortion,” as Rogan calls it. It accomplishes two goals simultaneously. First, it completely ignores the forensic evidence, the “impossible” logistics, and the premonition of death. Second, it subtly shifts the blame onto conservatives themselves, painting them as careless and reckless.
It is, as Rogan noted, an act of desperation. “It’s like they’re willing to do anything,” he said, “as long as they don’t face the real question.”
This is the state of the Charlie Kirk case. The official story is a house of cards, built on a suspect who couldn’t have done it, a gun that doesn’t match the bullet, and a timeline that defies logic.
We are left with a chilling set of facts. Charlie Kirk told multiple people he believed his life was in danger. The man arrested for the crime was part of a “mechanically impossible” scenario. The forensic evidence contradicts the official report. A known “decoy” was on the scene creating a distraction. And the mainstream media is pushing absurd theories to avoid talking about any of it.
This was not the act of a lone individual. This, as Candace Owens suggests, was a betrayal. As Joe Rogan argues, it was an orchestrated event. The truth is being buried under layers of noise, distraction, and outright lies.
The question is no longer if the official story is wrong. The question is: who is behind the real one, and what are they trying to hide?
2 replies on “Kirk and Candace on a New News Source”
So, what a waste of chatter.
Rense still has the real video,
The Israeli security team did it,
hustled the body away .
If , IF, I say If this is not a staged
Hollywood production, like for example Trump’s ear squib and camera-ready
blood on the face, with Mount Suribachi moment for propaganda posterity.
Perfect camera angle— “Fight!!” with
raised defiant fist!! Bravo!
Netanyahu pretty much blatantly threatened old DJT with a photo of
JFK, in the convertible car, in Dallas…
Did you know? Jack Ruby, in Dallas?, his real name was Rubenstein.
There are angles to calculate.
If you Dare, like real journalists Dare, who must realistically Fear and Anticipate hostile mafia type
enemies, after revealing and attacking
the criminal power, you must cut the Crap. ALL of the discussion about action away from the Charlie Kirk stage is
Distraction and Diversion from the truth.
No rifle, no long gun, no Tyler, no Trendy Trans Boyfriend angle. HorseShit, and
shows you what P.T. Barnum said:
“Never underestimate the gullibility of the American public” . My auto-fill on my
iPhone completed the phrase for me!
Lots of folks depend on the satanic liars club for their jobs, their banking.
Joe Rogan is making a living by Not ,
I say Not looking at the difficult Truth.
All the TV news people at FOX are
products of Catholic schools!
Interesting, when you think about loyalties and propaganda and maintaining your nice NYC millionaire lifestyle by pushing and parroting the
Script handed to you by the lawyers
and bankers. Kilmeade is the best example on Fox, the belligerent Irish
, like Hannity, pushing with Emotion!
We must Back the Jews, the Israeli
power THAT KILLED YOUR IRISH FIREFIGHTERS AND COPS ON 9/11/2001,
under the leadership of Cheney and Wolfowitz and the PNAC, and “Israel”.
Are you going to wise-up? Hannity?
Kilmeade?
Kash Patel has told the world he’s going to pursue the Patsies in the goofy
Online chatroom! Bravo Kash! I need a
Good paying Job! I will be your Judge Dredd Auditor Inspector Executioner!
You can be the FBI Mikado, and we will
have a Gilbert and Sullivan operetta!
Get your trusty Lads together, Kash.
I’m fortunate that my life studies have shown me that the people of India and the Himalayas are thousands of years ahead of so-called Western culture in
the area of advanced knowledge.
I need a Job Kash! I’m best utilized by
Not coming in to play office politics. We
need to remove enemies.
Om Mani Padme HOOM!
Hail to the Jewel in the Lotus!
Jesus is LORD!
Hallelujah!
Thanks again, Stock!
Jacob Rubenstein, another patsy.