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I’m a former um Israel Palestine uh correspondent. You were pressing him on if the modern state of Israel as a homeland for the Jewish people today has legal or biblical legitimacy. You were sort of questioning him on this idea.
Why though were you so interested in those questions? There is an enormous sensitivity around Israel being the homeland of the Jewish people and the attempt to delegitimize that.
I have enormous sensitivity about the United States being the homeland of my people and the burial place of my ancestors. Asking questions is not hate. Telling the truth is not hate. And they don’t want to answer the questions and they don’t want to tell the truth.
Can asking questions though stir up hate? I mean, language is powerful. Just to give you a sense of how deep the hellscape we live in truly is, that was a New York Times reporter, Lulu Garcia Navaro, who was New York Times’s Israel Palestine correspondent, making the case that asking questions about Israel’s intent is wrong because it might inspire hate.
You’re a journalist. You’re a journalist, Jen. She’s a journalist.
Yeah. No, I don’t think so. Especially after watching that. So I had the misfortune of watching the whole two-hour thing. We’re going to give you important clips from it. And what is important is what she asked and what she didn’t ask. So after you see the clips, what I want to talk to you about is what was her mission in that interview because that’s really the most important thing. And it tells you more about mainstream media and the New York Times than it does about Tucker Carlson.
So, for me at least, it really did seem like Lulu Garcia Navaro’s point or objective throughout this conversation with Tucker Carlson was to excoriate him for daring to ask a line of questioning in regard to Israel that Israel doesn’t like. And what Israel likes to do and what defenders of Israel like to do is they like to weaponize identity in order to shut people up as Israel is carrying out war crimes, atrocities, genocide. You get the picture.
And so those days are over. People want to actually ask appropriate questions that will inform the American people about what Israel is really up to. So who cares about your sensitivities, Anna? What matters here is whether or not you’re asking questions that actually enlighten the general public through the work you’re doing. Now, she has no interest. I’m sorry, Lulu, whatever her name is. Garcia. She might be more considerate of these sensitivities, but if you’re a journalist, I think getting to the bottom of the truth is more important.
And that’s partly the case that Tucker Carlson tried to make in response. So before we get to any of what Tucker had to say, I do think it’s important for you guys to really fully understand how she operates when it comes to the topic of Israel specifically and only Israel.
Let’s watch. The reason I want to press on this a little bit more is that you know that there is an entire anti-semitic worldview that has been based on the protocols of the elders of Zion. You know that there is like this cabal of powerful Jews that controls the world. And you know that book was written in the early 20th century but it helped the Nazis and it really has informed a lot of the views of many people today that there is this very powerful sect of Jewish people who want global war and global conflict.
And I think that there is a concern that I have and a real concern. I don’t mean this as something that people say to slander anyone, but just a real concern that the rhetoric where everything is blamed on Israel, where Israel has these supernatural powers almost to influence the president, to influence the previous president, George W. Bush to enter into the Iraq war, to be involved in assassinations etc, that it has echoes of that.
Lulu you’re not a journalist you’re not a journalist because the fact of the matter is regardless of whatever book you’re referencing right now there is a small group of Zionist billionaires okay we’re talking about Larry Ellison and his son David Ellison the Murdochs what else Miriam Adelson and before her husband passed away her husband was a giant donor to Donald Trump specifically for what? To carry out the best interest of Israel, even at the detriment of the American people.
In fact, he gave a speech once standing right beside his wife arguing about how it brought him shame that he wore a US military uniform as opposed to an IDF uniform. Okay, that’s who they are. And do they have control over our political system? Of course they do. They’re billionaires. And bribery is baked into our political system for a reason. I’m beginning to really learn.
And so like, oh, you can’t ask these questions because reality is a big conspiracy theory because reality Israel has determined is a trope.
Yeah. So look, there’s two things about that that are so important. Number one, none of her questions were about why are you so opposed to the war? What do you think is going to go wrong with the war? Why were you so animated by the genocide, etc. Got nothing. Two hours and nothing about policy or substance.
Almost every question was framed as why did you talk to Nick Fuentes? Why aren’t you concerned about the feelings of Israelis? Why did you do this? Why did you do it was all one giant gotcha, right? And it was all structured not around policy, but around have you offended the sensitivities of some of the most powerful people in this country.
Why is the New York Times in the business of protecting the sensitivities of the most powerful people in this country and doesn’t care about policy or substance at all?
And so look at the framing. No questions, passionate or otherwise, about 22,800 kids dead in Gaza, the current invasion of Lebanon by Israel, etc. But over and over, she comes back to the enormous sensitivity. That’s a direct quote. You saw with your own eyes the enormous sensitivity of Israel’s supporters here.
So wait, Lulu, what’s more important? 23,000 dead kids or the people who are offended that you pointed out 23,000 dead kids. And for Lulu and everyone at the New York Times, that’s not close. They don’t care about the kids at all. They don’t have one scintilla of concern about the kids. What they have is about the enormous sensitivity of the genocide supporters. You are offending the genocide supporters. Good. Good.
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And for her, no, no, no. For the New York Times and people, reporters like Lululemon, that is their only concern. Have we protected the Zionists well enough? Have we protected the sensitivities of Israel’s well enough?
Okay. Oh, you’re bothering me with your genocide and oh, so what? Yeah, of Russia is terrible for invading Ukraine and taking their land. Israel’s taking 63% of Gaza. How often has Lululemon gone nuts about that or passionate about that or be concerned about those sensitivities? And they’re in southern Lebanon and they’re saying they’re going to take all of southern Lebanon. But those are not any sensitivities to anyone who works at the New York Times cuz the New York Times is trash Israeli propaganda.
And so one day they’re going to make the mistake of asking me for an interview like this. Tucker was way too nice and kind. I on the other hand will destroy them. And the reason for that is because I am right and we are right and the New York Times is propaganda trash and I will prove it to them. Make the mistake of asking me. Okay? And of course they’re not going to make that mistake because of the enormous sensitivities of the beloved Israeli supporters and how the entire new structure has to be around protecting their feelings.
And one more thing before we go to more clips. The Germans original names were the barbarians. Who gave him the name of the barbarians? The Romans did because the Germans kept invading the Roman Empire. They were the terrorists at the time, right? If during the Holocaust, the New York Times and all of American media was concerned about the feelings of the Germans, the enormous test. You know, it’s a trope to call us barbarians. The Germans would say, “It’s a trope. It’s a trope. You shouldn’t care about the Holocaust. You should care about German feelings.”
Well, that would have been the most outrageous thing you had ever heard. But here, the New York Times is saying to Tucker Car, “How dare you care about American interest and American debt in this war and the Palestinians and the Lebanese that are dead? You only have to care about Israeli feelings. You sicken me, New York Times. You don’t do any reporting. All you do is trash. Total propaganda for a foreign government.”
Go ahead, Anna. I just want to say, Lulu, just because you want to be a crappy reporter doesn’t mean that others in the field also want to be crappy reporters.
Well, but they all are. They all are.
A lot of them are. But real journalists don’t care about the sensitivities of genociders. Okay. They want to ask questions. They want to get to the bottom of the truth. And that’s what Tucker Carlson apparently wants to do. And he wanted to explain himself as she was asking these questions with the framing she was asking them in.
Now, one of Tucker Carlson’s most controversial in the eyes of Lulu interviews was the one that he carried out with the US ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabe. So, in that interview, Huckabe, a fanatical Christian Zionist, said that it would be totally fine if Israel carried out the Greater Israel project, which of course means that Israel would take all of Palestine, all of Lebanon, and parts of Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey. It’s an expansionist policy that would require slaughter of innocent people, displacement of innocent people, and the theft of land that doesn’t belong to Israel.
Now, Lulu should be a little bit interested in the fact that our ambassador to Israel told Tucker Carlson, “Yeah, Israel should just take it. Not a big deal.” But she’s not concerned about that. She’s not concerned about that. Instead, she’s concerned about why Tucker Carlson would even ask that question in the first place.
Let’s watch. I’m not going to let you off on this because you have three times that God gave this land to this people. And so it is entirely fair for me with respect to ask what land are you talking about because I just read Genesis 15 as I have many times. And that land I think it says from the Nile to the Euphrates which is once again basically the entire Middle East.
So God gave that land to his people the Jews or he didn’t. You’re saying he did. What does that mean? Does Israel have the right to that land? Because you’re appealing to Genesis. You’re saying that’s the original deed. It would be fine if they took it all.
Disgusting. It’ll be fine. It would be fine if they took it all. Okay. So, I wanted to show you guys that so you remember just how aborant and disgusting Mike Hugabe is. But Lulu has no problem with him. His problem is with Tucker, right?
How dare you ask him questions. He’s representing Israel. Belove Israel. Don’t hurt your testimony.
Okay. So, let’s go to that moment where she asks Tucker about this.
Well, I mean, you did have exactly this contentious interview with Ambassador Huckabe. He’s the ambassador to Israel where you talk to him about Christian Zionism for quite some time. You were pressing him on if the modern state of Israel as a homeland for the Jewish people today has legal or biblical legitimacy. I was just wondering what you were trying to get at there.
I was trying to get at an answer which I couldn’t get and instead was accused of hate for trying to evoke a answer to a very simple question and the question was on what basis are you making this claim?
People whose ancestors didn’t live here now occupy the land. That’s very common in history by the way. I’m not even objecting to it. What I’m objecting to is the claim that it’s God’s will and that Israel because of this has the unique right to exist.
Okay, where does that right come from? Well, the right comes from the Bible. Okay, well, I’m not a Bible scholar, but I’ve certainly read it a lot. And I said to him, where are the borders? Because my read of Genesis is that it’s a big hunk of land. That’s the Middle East.
Does Israel have a right because you’re referring to this text as the basis of the right to have that land? And he said, “Fine with me.” So, like on many levels, theological and diplomatic, kind of a big thing to say. The White House was annoyed that he said it out loud. I was grateful that he did because it’s good to know what the terms are.
And honestly, we live in such a perverse world where Tucker Carlson is trying to defend or explain himself for doing what you are supposed to do.
And just again going back to Lulu’s take and the way she’s handling this, are you not outraged that Mike Huckabe said what he said or are you just outraged that Tucker Carlson had the courage to ask the questions necessary to get at the answer, the honest answer that Huckabe gave us?
Anna, she did it again. She’s like, “How dare you ask questions? What kind of reporter is this?” She was the Israel Palestine correspondent. And she just told you she thinks it’s offensive to ask Israel questions. Offensive to ask questions of the topic she’s covering.
Yep.
So she’s like, “Oh, the poor Mike Huckabe. There he was as the American ambassador trying to get Israel to conquer the entire Middle East.” And you come in asking your questions, Tucker Carlson.
First of all, Tucker Carlson by asking those questions was a better journalist than almost everyone in mainstream media because they are purposely not asking those questions because they’re cowards who are like, “Oh, I might get fired. I might get fired by the Israeli thug brown shirts.” I mean, the people with enormous sensitivity.
And you might get fired. You might if you were a real reporter and you actually dared to ask questions of the powerful instead of trying to beat up a guy who’s doing your job for you who’s actually asking questions of the powerful.
If you didn’t go to smear him and character assassinate him, then yes, you might be in some trouble because that would be challenging power. But Lulu, you’re not in any trouble, are you? You got a lot of pats on the head. Good job, Lululemon. Way to go. Okay, you’ve got him. And you got him to admit that he shouldn’t have had Nick Fuentes on. Way to smear him. Oh, the Israelis are very proud of you.
Okay, now let’s break it down just a little bit more.
Okay, so remember in that question he’s asking Mike Huckabe, what should Israel’s borders be according to Christian Zionist? Because Christian Zionists are a super important voting block that is making a big difference in American foreign policy.
Isn’t that like I would argue it’s even an elementary question. Obviously, we should know what they think are the proper borders because they keep calling the West Bank Judea and Samaria. So, that means we are definitely taking the West Bank and they are referring to all the places that Anna referred to and it’s in their cabinet. It’s not a small faction. It’s a majority of their cabinet that refers to greater Israel.
But Lulu thinks, “How dare you bow your head to Israel as any good reporter would because you’re offending the beloved people who run this country.”
See, she did you notice the incredibly obnoxious things she said about, “Oh, you say like Israel has these supernatural powers.” No, Lulu, they have the same powers big pharma, big oil defense contractors, the power to legally bribe our politicians and blackmail.
And so when they give to 94% of Congress, is it your reporting that tells you, “No, politicians are so honorable and honest, they would never be affected by hundreds of millions of dollars that the Israeli lobby gave them.” Is that your contention?
I’m sorry, I’m asking questions. I should know, of course, to bow and kneel and not ask any questions. But is it your contention that every other lobby is super successful, that’s why we can’t negotiate drug prices, we give giant subsidies to oil companies, but that the Israeli lobby are the only idiots that are totally ineffective or they don’t care about Israel at all, even though they literally say this is for Israel, but secretly they want to help the American people, and that’s why they just gave their honest and honorable politicians all this money?
Could that have something to do with it?
But for Lulu, she does not even consider, “Oh, what do you think it is? Supernatural powers. You do hate her.” Is what she said. In between every single line.
So, no, she is not 1% a reporter. What she is is a propagandist whose job is to enforce conventional wisdom and Israeli propaganda. And don’t you dare question anyone.
She says, “You’re pathetic.” Pathetic.
And you know what she did at the end, Anna? The very last question was, I talked to a lot of your friends and allies on the left and right and they all say that you are a very different person.
He is a different person. He’s way better. Okay. He’s way better because he realized that his views on foreign policy were garbage. He realized he was getting American soldiers killed on behalf of a foreign country. He realized he was advocating for the wrong things that hurt our country.
And since he actually cares about our country before any other country because of the fact that he cares about doing the right thing as someone who works in media as opposed to caring too much about the sensitivities or the feelings of the, you know, people actually carrying out genocide and land theft, he asked questions that were actually relevant to the issue and woke a lot of people up on the right about how toxic our relationship with Israel happens to be.
The reason I brought that up, Anna, is because she has a certain bubble that she’s in, a certain class that she’s in. She thinks she’s the good guy.
Yeah. No, she has bastardized the field of journalism by caring more about the feelings of people who have weaponized their identity specifically so they can provide cover for their genocidal acts.
That’s the reality, Lulu. That is the reality. You’re not a journalist.
She doesn’t know any of his allies that are on the left or the right who would actually dare to disagree with Israel. The only people she knows in her entire life all love Israel. So they all go to her and go, “Oh, I was on the left and I was an ally of Tucker. Really? Who are you? Name one. Okay. And I hate what he’s doing now. He’s so immoral for offending Israel.”
And literally everyone she knows says that because she lives in a bubble that is totally in favor of genocide and the disgusting wars that Israel has done over and over.
She’s in a bubble that loves that they robbed us of $300 billion, drove us into seven wars that cost us $8 trillion. But she never reports on any of that. Instead, she reports on how her great friends, who all loved Tucker before when he was doing Israeli propaganda, are now so upset with them now that he’s no longer doing Israeli propaganda like Lulu Garcia Navaro.
And let me say one last thing, Lulu. You intimated throughout that entire interview that you were more moral than Tucker Carlson, that you cared about the sensitivities of the genociders. And he didn’t. He doesn’t even care about this how offended he’s made all the people in favor of genocide. How dare he?
No. I accuse you, Lulu. You are the immoral one. Tucker is a thousand times more moral than you are.
Now, I’ve got a hundred issues with the other issue, the policies that he has, but at least he has enough decency to say it is unchristian. It is undecent. It is immoral to kill the innocent, which none of you at the New York Times have that decency, including one of your columnists, Brett Stevens, that just went on Bill Maher’s show and said, “We got to do regime change. More war, more war for Israel.”
Right. Right. But no, don’t ask any questions. You might get fired at the New York Times if you dare to do any journalism. Instead, you do trash interviews like this one.
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