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where are the current ashkenazi, highest percentage of the population of countries or local areas within countries
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Ashkenazi Jews are a significant ethnic group within the Jewish population, traditionally descending from Jews who lived in Central and Eastern Europe. Today, the largest concentrations of Ashkenazi Jews are found in a few specific countries and local areas with notable percentages within these populations.
Countries with the Highest Percentages of Ashkenazi Jews:
Israel:
Population: Over 6 million Jews (Ashkenazi Jews make up approximately 47.5% of the Jewish population).
Ashkenazi Jews are prominent in Israeli politics, business, and culture. Over time, many Jews from Europe migrated to Israel, particularly after the Holocaust.
United States:
Population: Around 5.8 million Jews, with Ashkenazi Jews making up an estimated 90%.
The Ashkenazi Jewish community is mainly found in major cities like New York, Los Angeles, and Miami, but New York City (particularly Brooklyn) holds the largest population of Ashkenazi Jews in the U.S.
Canada:
Population: Canada has about 392,000 Jews, with a majority being of Ashkenazi descent.
The largest concentration is in Toronto and Montreal, with significant Jewish communities contributing to the cultural fabric of these cities.
France:
Population: Over 446,000 Jews, many of whom are Ashkenazi, although there is a large Sephardi Jewish population as well.
Cities like Paris and Marseille have sizable Ashkenazi communities, particularly from migrations after World War II.
United Kingdom:
Population: About 270,000 Jews, many of Ashkenazi descent, concentrated in London, particularly in areas like Golders Green and Stamford Hill.
Argentina:
Population: 180,000 Jews, predominantly Ashkenazi, concentrated in Buenos Aires.
Argentina has one of the largest Jewish populations in Latin America, with significant European Jewish immigration after World War II.
Local Areas within Countries:
New York City, USA: Specifically, Brooklyn, Manhattan, and the Bronx have some of the highest concentrations of Ashkenazi Jews in the world.
Tel Aviv and Jerusalem, Israel: These cities have a large proportion of Ashkenazi Jews, contributing significantly to Israel's modern cultural and political life.
Paris, France: Ashkenazi Jews make up a large percentage of the Jewish population in the city.
Toronto and Montreal, Canada: Large Ashkenazi populations are integral to the Jewish communities here.
These areas reflect the post-WWII migrations, including to the United States, Israel, and elsewhere, and the continued presence of Ashkenazi Jews in influential sectors of society.
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Why are shephardic jews usually not askenazi
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The terms Sephardic and Ashkenazi refer to two major Jewish ethnic groups that emerged from different historical and geographical origins, which is why Sephardic Jews are usually not considered Ashkenazi. The distinction is rooted in where these groups lived and how their customs, language, and culture developed over time.
Key Differences Between Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews:
Geographic Origins:
Sephardic Jews: Originally from the Iberian Peninsula (modern-day Spain and Portugal). After being expelled from Spain in 1492, many Sephardic Jews settled in areas around the Mediterranean, including North Africa, Turkey, Greece, and parts of the Middle East.
Ashkenazi Jews: Descended from Jewish communities that settled in Central and Eastern Europe, including Germany, Poland, Russia, and other nearby regions.
Language:
Sephardic Jews traditionally spoke Ladino, a Judeo-Spanish language that developed from Old Spanish with elements of Hebrew and other languages from the Mediterranean.
Ashkenazi Jews traditionally spoke Yiddish, a language that developed from Middle High German, with a mixture of Hebrew, Slavic languages, and other influences.
Cultural Practices and Customs:
The religious customs and liturgy of Sephardic Jews are rooted in the traditions that developed in Spain and North Africa, with influences from the Middle East. Their liturgical rites differ from those of Ashkenazi Jews, particularly in prayer styles, melodies, and the celebration of Jewish holidays.
Ashkenazi Jews follow customs that evolved in Central and Eastern Europe, including distinct prayer practices, synagogue music, and holiday traditions.
Cuisine:
Sephardic cuisine is influenced by Mediterranean and Middle Eastern flavors, featuring dishes like couscous, rice, olives, and rich spices such as saffron.
Ashkenazi cuisine is more influenced by Eastern European traditions, with foods like gefilte fish, matzo ball soup, and dishes that use potatoes, cabbage, and meat.
Historical Experiences:
Sephardic Jews faced the Spanish Inquisition and expulsion from Spain and Portugal, leading to widespread diaspora in the Mediterranean and North Africa.
Ashkenazi Jews faced pogroms (violent riots aimed at Jews) and discrimination in Europe, particularly in Eastern Europe, but they also developed a rich cultural heritage despite persecution.
Why They Are Usually Not Considered the Same Group:
The differences between Sephardic and Ashkenazi Jews stem from centuries of living in distinct regions, with unique cultural, linguistic, and religious practices developing in each community. Though both groups share the same foundational Jewish faith, their customs, interpretations of Jewish law, and cultural expressions diverged due to their separate historical trajectories.
As a result, Sephardic Jews are usually not classified as Ashkenazi because of these historical and cultural distinctions, even though they are all part of the broader Jewish community. Both groups maintain their own unique identities within Judaism, though there has been some blending of traditions in modern times, particularly in places like Israel and the United States.
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but ashkenazi is ultimately a genetic clarification, so comment on that in relation to the iberian jews, langauge and such therefore does not matter
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When looking at the Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jewish populations from a genetic perspective, the distinctions between the two groups are more complex than just cultural, linguistic, or regional differences.
Genetic Background of Ashkenazi Jews:
Ashkenazi Jews trace their ancestry primarily to Eastern and Central Europe, though genetic studies show that they share a significant amount of Middle Eastern ancestry, which links them to the ancient Jewish populations. Over time, as Ashkenazi Jews settled in Europe, they experienced some genetic admixture with local European populations. Despite this, Ashkenazi Jews have remained a genetically distinct group for centuries, with relatively little intermarriage with non-Jewish populations until more recent times.
Genetic studies indicate that the Ashkenazi population is more homogeneous than other Jewish populations due to a founder effect—a small number of individuals gave rise to a large population over time, amplifying certain genetic traits and diseases common among Ashkenazi Jews (such as Tay-Sachs disease). Today, most Ashkenazi Jews can trace their lineage back to just a few thousand people who lived in Europe several centuries ago.
Genetic Background of Sephardic Jews:
Sephardic Jews, on the other hand, trace their ancestry to Iberia (Spain and Portugal) and were dispersed primarily after the Spanish Inquisition and expulsions in 1492. The genetic makeup of Sephardic Jews reflects their time in Iberia and their subsequent dispersal to North Africa, the Balkans, and the Ottoman Empire. Like Ashkenazi Jews, Sephardic Jews also retain significant Middle Eastern ancestry from the ancient Jewish population, though they, too, experienced genetic mixing with local populations in Iberia and the Mediterranean.
However, Sephardic Jews tend to show more genetic diversity than Ashkenazi Jews, likely due to their wider geographic spread after the Iberian expulsions and their interactions with a more varied set of local populations.
Genetic Differences Between Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews:
Distinct Genetic Clusters: Genetic studies consistently show that Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews are distinct populations within the broader Jewish genetic continuum. While they share some common ancestry from the ancient Israelites, they have largely evolved as separate populations for the past millennium or more.
Ashkenazi Jews have higher genetic similarities among themselves due to the relative isolation and founder effects in Eastern Europe.
Sephardic Jews exhibit more genetic variation, reflecting their interactions with different host populations across North Africa, Southern Europe, and the Middle East.
The Role of Genetics Versus Cultural Differences:
While genetic studies show that both Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews have common Middle Eastern roots, these groups have experienced thousands of years of separation, during which their genetic lineages have diverged, albeit with some overlap.
Language (Yiddish for Ashkenazi Jews, Ladino for Sephardic Jews) and cultural practices are more superficial expressions of these deeper genetic differences, though they reflect the long-standing geographic separations between these populations.
Genetic Testing and Jewish Ancestry:
Genetic testing has become a popular way to explore Jewish ancestry. Ashkenazi Jews, because of their relative homogeneity, are often easily identified through genetic markers, while the genetic makeup of Sephardic Jews might reflect a more complex mixture due to their varied history.
Some Iberian Jews may share genetic markers with Ashkenazi Jews due to the historical movements of populations, but generally, Sephardic Jews and Ashkenazi Jews remain distinct genetic groups.
Summary:
The reason Sephardic Jews are usually not considered Ashkenazi is rooted in both cultural and genetic differentiation. While both groups share common ancient Jewish ancestry, centuries of separation, migration, and mixing with different populations have led to distinct genetic profiles. Sephardic Jews generally reflect more genetic diversity due to their broader dispersal across different regions after the expulsion from Spain and Portugal, while Ashkenazi Jews remained more isolated in Europe, leading to a relatively homogenous gene pool. Thus, genetics reinforces the distinction between these groups, making language and culture secondary markers of identity in this context.
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such as Tay-Sachs disease). please expand on this
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Tay-Sachs disease is a genetic disorder that primarily affects Ashkenazi Jews but can occur in other populations as well. It is one of several genetic conditions that disproportionately affect Ashkenazi Jews due to what is known as a founder effect, where a small initial population passes down certain genetic mutations that become more prevalent over time within that population.
Overview of Tay-Sachs Disease:
Cause: Tay-Sachs is caused by mutations in the HEXA gene, which is responsible for producing an enzyme called hexosaminidase A. This enzyme is crucial for breaking down fatty substances (gangliosides) in nerve cells. Without enough functional hexosaminidase A, these fatty substances build up in the brain and spinal cord, leading to progressive neurological damage.
Inheritance: Tay-Sachs is an autosomal recessive disorder, meaning that both parents must be carriers of the mutated gene for their child to be affected. If both parents carry the gene, each child has a 25% chance of inheriting Tay-Sachs, a 50% chance of being a carrier, and a 25% chance of not inheriting the mutation.
Symptoms: Symptoms typically appear in infants around six months of age. These include:
Loss of motor skills (e.g., sitting, crawling)
Exaggerated startle response
Seizures
Progressive weakness and muscle stiffness
Vision and hearing loss
Cognitive decline
Tay-Sachs is a neurodegenerative disease, and most children with the condition pass away by the age of four or five.
Prevalence Among Ashkenazi Jews:
Carrier Rates: In the general population, the carrier rate for Tay-Sachs is about 1 in 300, but in Ashkenazi Jews, the carrier rate is significantly higher, around 1 in 27. This high prevalence is thought to be the result of the founder effect, where a small number of original Ashkenazi Jewish ancestors carried the mutation, and it became more common as the population grew.
Genetic Testing: Due to the higher carrier rate among Ashkenazi Jews, genetic testing for Tay-Sachs has been widely promoted in the community. Since the 1970s, genetic screening programs have greatly reduced the number of Tay-Sachs births in the Ashkenazi Jewish population. Couples can be tested to determine if they are both carriers, and various reproductive options (such as in-vitro fertilization with pre-implantation genetic diagnosis) are available for carrier couples.
Founder Effect and Genetic Disorders in Ashkenazi Jews:
Besides Tay-Sachs, several other genetic disorders are more common in Ashkenazi Jews due to the founder effect. Some of these include:
Gaucher disease: A condition in which fatty substances build up in certain organs, particularly the spleen and liver.
Canavan disease: A neurodegenerative disorder caused by the breakdown of the central nervous system’s white matter.
Bloom syndrome: A disorder that causes short stature, sun sensitivity, and an increased risk of cancer.
These conditions are linked to the relatively isolated nature of the Ashkenazi Jewish population over many centuries, which resulted in limited genetic diversity and a higher prevalence of certain mutations.
Tay-Sachs in Other Populations:
While Tay-Sachs is most commonly associated with Ashkenazi Jews, it can also affect other populations. French-Canadians, Cajuns in Louisiana, and Irish Americans have higher-than-average carrier rates for the disease, but the reasons for these elevated rates are not fully understood. Genetic mutations in the HEXA gene can appear in any population, though the prevalence is much lower outside these specific groups.
Conclusion:
Tay-Sachs disease serves as a prime example of how the genetic history of a population, particularly a relatively isolated one like the Ashkenazi Jews, can influence the prevalence of certain inherited disorders. Thanks to advances in genetic testing and public health initiatives, the occurrence of Tay-Sachs among Ashkenazi Jews has dramatically decreased in recent decades. However, it remains an important consideration in family planning for individuals from populations with a higher carrier rate.
Would you like more details on how genetic testing is conducted for Tay-Sachs or other related disorders?
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what about recent scientific finding on genetics of ashkenazi per-dispoing them to mental illness
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Recent scientific research has delved into the genetic predisposition of Ashkenazi Jews to certain mental illnesses. Some of the key findings in this area highlight how the genetic bottleneck and founder effect that shaped the Ashkenazi Jewish population have also contributed to a higher prevalence of specific genetic mutations, which may be linked to mental health disorders. While there is ongoing research, several studies have shed light on genetic predispositions related to schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, and other psychiatric conditions.
Genetic Factors and Mental Illness in Ashkenazi Jews:
Schizophrenia and Bipolar Disorder:
Several studies have identified a higher prevalence of genetic mutations linked to schizophrenia and bipolar disorder in Ashkenazi Jews. Specifically, research has pointed to variations in the NRXN1 gene (Neurexin 1), which is involved in synaptic function, playing a role in mental health disorders like schizophrenia.
A 2014 study by the Weizmann Institute of Science and other collaborators found that certain mutations in the NRXN1 gene are disproportionately common in Ashkenazi Jews, possibly due to the founder effect. The NRXN1 gene is involved in brain connectivity, and mutations in this gene are associated with increased risks for neurodevelopmental and psychiatric disorders.
Role of the Founder Effect:
The Ashkenazi Jewish population underwent a genetic bottleneck roughly 700 to 1,000 years ago, significantly reducing genetic diversity. This has led to the retention of both beneficial and deleterious mutations, including those related to psychiatric disorders.
In addition to Tay-Sachs and other well-known genetic conditions, researchers have discovered that copy number variations (CNVs), which are large deletions or duplications of DNA, are more common in Ashkenazi Jews and are linked to psychiatric conditions. CNVs in genes affecting brain function, such as those involved in synaptic transmission, are linked to conditions like schizophrenia and bipolar disorder.
Research on Dopamine Pathways:
There is ongoing research examining how dopamine receptor gene variants in Ashkenazi Jews may predispose some individuals to conditions like schizophrenia and ADHD. Dopamine dysregulation is a well-known factor in the development of psychosis and mood disorders.
Epigenetics and Environmental Influence:
While genetics plays a significant role, researchers are also exploring how epigenetic factors (heritable changes in gene expression that do not involve changes to the DNA sequence) could interact with environmental stressors to trigger mental illness. Epigenetic changes may occur due to environmental pressures such as migration, trauma, and persecution, which have been part of Ashkenazi Jewish history and may contribute to mental health vulnerabilities.
Studies Highlighting Genetic Links:
A 2016 study published in Nature Communications found that Ashkenazi Jews carry certain rare genetic mutations more frequently than other populations, some of which are associated with an increased risk of schizophrenia.
Another study from Mount Sinai School of Medicine identified genetic overlaps between psychiatric disorders and neurodevelopmental disorders, suggesting that certain genetic pathways involved in brain development might also predispose individuals to mental health conditions.
Conclusion:
The higher incidence of certain genetic mutations among Ashkenazi Jews has contributed to a deeper understanding of the biological underpinnings of mental illness, particularly in relation to schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. However, it is important to note that genetics is only one factor, and environmental and epigenetic factors also play significant roles in the development of mental illness. The unique genetic history of the Ashkenazi Jewish population has provided researchers with valuable insights into the complex interactions between genes and mental health.
If you’d like more specific studies or resources on this topic, I can provide references or direct you to specific research findings.
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Yes provide as many references as you can as hyperlinks, and check that they work, often your links don’t work
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Recent studies have indicated that Ashkenazi Jews, due to their unique genetic makeup, may have an increased predisposition to certain mental health conditions, such as schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. These findings stem from the genetic bottleneck effect seen in this population, which has led to higher frequencies of specific gene variants associated with neurodevelopmental disorders.
One notable discovery involves the NDST3 gene, which is linked to critical neurodevelopmental processes such as axon formation and synaptic function. Research has shown that a specific variant of this gene is more prevalent among Ashkenazi Jews and may contribute to a higher risk of schizophrenia and bipolar disorder
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Moreover, studies highlight that while genetic predispositions exist, environmental factors also play a critical role in determining the onset and severity of these conditions. The combination of genetic insights from Ashkenazi populations and broader global research is providing scientists with better tools to understand the genetic underpinnings of severe psychiatric disorders and potentially develop targeted treatments.
To explore further on these studies and the implications of genetic research on mental health, you can read more from EurekAlert and Nature
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