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We don't know how much they have been
lying, but one thing is for sure, they attempt to cover up, and then they
attempt to minimize, and then they attempt to confuse the issue, and then
additional admissions come out (usually).
For sure, a lot of
Plutonium and Americium came out in the air.
And it came out for weeks because they had some open ductworks prior to
the "good" HEPA filters, so the contaminated air was blasted out
through an opening at a high volume rate.
We only have their numbers to work with, so it could be highly
variable. We know that TEPCO has lied
for years, and when they do fess up we find they have been lying by a factor of
10 to 100. The more they have to lie,
the more they do lie.
One of the HUGE lies they are still running with is that
they are comparing Pu and Am to any other type of radiation, and it is
not. One chart above shows that
sucking in some hot Pu particles is 110,000 times worse than your average
non-transuranic radiation. But WIPP
and DOE and the University "independent lab" which is funded by DOE
100%, all have been pretending that Pu and Am are equal to the more harmless of
external radiation.
HUGE LIE! Pu and
Am are some of the most dangerous things on the planet. When breathed in they kill 255 out of 255
young Beagles in 2 to 5 years.
How Much Plutonium Does It Take to
“Almost For Sure” Kill a Human
Some people say that even one microgram (one one-millionth
of gram)
will kill a human. And that is true...I mean it is possible
that one micro-gram could product a lung, liver, or bone tumor that would cause
death. But now what is likely? The "best" testing was on
Beagles, but sometimes some animals are more tolerant than humans when it comes
to contamination, they don't live as long, but dogs are tougher while they
live. But if humans were as tough as
Beagles, then a dose of 150 micro-grams to 450 micro-grams would be enough to
almost for sure kill you in say 2 to 10 years, maybe 20.
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OK now let’s bring it home so to speak. They were pumping air out of that
radiation cave at the rate of 100,000 CFM and maybe a bit higher because they
had some big open hole to the atmosphere (that was a mistake on their part,
could be something to do with the recent fire 2 weeks earlier, who knows, but
they did fess up to that). So roughly
10% to 20% was going directly to the atmosphere.
CFM Cubic Feet per Minute
OK what does this CFM mean?
Well it’s Cubic Feet Per Minute.
What does that mean? Well let’s
use an example. A really good quality
kitchen exhaust fan (not the cheap ones you often see at a house) but a gourmet
kitchen or a light commercial kitchen will have an exhaust fan that can push
500 CFM. That’s a lot of air! Well the amount they were exhausting was
like 2000 of this really good fans.
And 10% to 20% was going direct to atmosphere, so that is like 200 to
400 really good fans, pumping the radiation accident direct into the
atmosphere....and that lasted for several WEEKS.
Grams, a Pretty Small Unit of Weight
OK now to bring the concept of "grams" into
something you can relate to. Picture a
dime, and make it a silver dime, you know back before 1963 when money was “real
money”, back when you sometimes trust what the government was telling you? Right, back in the day before spin was “in”. OK that silver dime weighs 2.5 Grams
(g). Now what if it was Plutonium? Well Plutonium is a VERY heavy metal, in
fact it weighs almost 240% more than silver.
That’s heavy. OK so some
Plutonium (Pu), about the size of a dime would have 240% more mass than the
silver, or roughly 6 grams of Pu. That
is equal to 6,000,000 micrograms.
Some people state that a single microgram can kill a person,
so if that dime size material was vaporized and exhausted out the exhaust fans,
AND it was distributed equally to 6,000,000 people it could kill all of
them. Well I don’t think that
Plutonium is that dangerous, at least on the basis of “is it almost for
sure going to kill you”. I think a
better number for “almost for sure going to kill you”, is about 300 micrograms
of Pu.
You got a calculator?
Sheesh, don’t make me do all the work, divide 6,000,000 by 300 and see
how many people could be killed “almost for sure”. Again based on that amount being equally
distributed among those people.
How many “dimes” of vaporized Pu do you think came out of
that radiation cave with 200 to 400 high quality fans pumping air out, with 10%
to 20% of the air bypassing the filters, for
weeks on end? How much dust do
you get when you vacuum your house and it doesn’t even look dirty?
How many 55 gallon barrels of high level waste do they have
in that cave? 500,000 total and about
2% to 4% is high level (highly dangerous concentrations). 4% is supposedly the maximum they are
planning on storing in their cave, but in reality, in their deep dark hearts,
the nuclear “scientists” who don’t give a rip about you and want to put all the
waste, even from nuclear power plants down there. And if YOU don’t shut them down NOW,
at this crisis, and while they are being caught in their lies, then it will happen,
they will stuff that cave full of everything radioactively dangerous in the
country. Either way,
stop now or fill to the brim, I would never ever live within 50 miles of that
radiation cave.
How Much High Level Waste Have They
Put Into WIPP?
4% of 500,000 barrels is 20,000 Barrels of high level waste,
that’s a lot! How high is “high
level”. Well the former director of
the “independent” monitoring agency for WIPP was caught bragging on a
pro-nuclear website called Atomic Insights, just recently, that they stashed very hot liquids down there,
“hotter than anything at Hanford, 7 Curies per Liter”. Google “Hanford Radioactive Waste” and
realize that what they are trucking into New Mexico from all over the country
is worse than that.
A Liter is Almost the Same As A
Quart
OK let’s bring it home again. You probably know what a Liter is…it’s what
most larger soda bottles are, about the same size as a Quart. OK simple enough on that one…now we get to
the tricky part, the part that the pro-nukers count on, using varying
engineering units so that people just turn their brain off and never get a “gut
feeling” for what a radiation unit is.
Don’t turn your brain off yet, follow me down this last rabbit hole just
a little bit, and I am going to convert that 1 liter of radiation at 7 curies,
into the amount of Chickens that would be contaminated to the point that you
shouldn’t EVER eat them. OK how many
Chickens?
Curies & Bq (or Becquerel) Are a
Way to Measure Radiation. Curies is A
LOT, A Becquerel is A Little.
7 Curies is 259,000,000,000 Bq and if you want to run down
these rabbit holes yourself, you can use this really cool online calculator,
here is the proof of those numbers.
50 Bq per pound is the upper limit in animal flesh for
radiation. So for the average Costco
size Chicken at 5 lbs, a total radiation load of 250 Bq would be a rational
maximum.
OK can your calculator fit 259,000,000,000 divided by 250
Bq? I’ll give you the answer, about 1 Billion Chickens
contaminated from 1 liter of that “hotter than anything at Hanford” liquid.
OK That is One Liter, How Many
Liters Do They Have In That Cave?
OK how many liters in a 55 gallon barrel? It’s actually fun to ask the online
calculator and make IT do the work.
The answer is 208 Liters per barrel. And at 1 Billion Chickens per Liter, that is
208 Billion Chickens that could be contaminated by 1 barrel!
Is there even 208 Billion Chickens in the whole WORLD? There are only around 6 Billion people.
Now are you starting to understand the incredible danger of
what they are doing in that cave? They
have at least 20,000 barrels of this high level radiation down there now. And another 480,000 barrels of other
radioactive waste. And they want to
keep adding more, and they want to expand the scope to include even more
dangerous stuff.
And then they tell us “take it or leave it”, we either stuff it in the WIPP cave or we just leave it were it is at. Huh, an ultimatum from these “scientists” who made the mess. This is another false argument of Limited Choices. And no, “We The People” do not accept limited choices, especially when you are putting our children at grave risk, and us too, at grave risk.
And then they tell us “take it or leave it”, we either stuff it in the WIPP cave or we just leave it were it is at. Huh, an ultimatum from these “scientists” who made the mess. This is another false argument of Limited Choices. And no, “We The People” do not accept limited choices, especially when you are putting our children at grave risk, and us too, at grave risk.
Putting it all in one
place does not make sense, especially because we now know that when these
various wastes mix up through corrosion of the steel containers they are
putting in the salt, or through accidents where one barrel blows up and
ruptures others, or a ceiling collapse.
The “scientists” who created all this really dangerous waste never thought there could be a large collapse at WIPP, but it happened in the past, the day after workers were in a cave section called a “panel”, and more than It was beyond their “design basis”. In other words, their assumptions were not accurate enough nor careful enough from the beginning. Now their response is “we have to keep going, we have to keep filling WIPP up, because there is nowhere else for the waste WE created to go, and we will just have to use bigger bolts so the ceiling doesn’t collapse so fast.”
100,000 pounds of ceiling caved in.
The “scientists” who created all this really dangerous waste never thought there could be a large collapse at WIPP, but it happened in the past, the day after workers were in a cave section called a “panel”, and more than It was beyond their “design basis”. In other words, their assumptions were not accurate enough nor careful enough from the beginning. Now their response is “we have to keep going, we have to keep filling WIPP up, because there is nowhere else for the waste WE created to go, and we will just have to use bigger bolts so the ceiling doesn’t collapse so fast.”
100,000 pounds of ceiling caved in.
Didn’t we hear here that expression before when government
officials were trying to cover up a big scary problem at Amity on the Atlantic
ocean “I think we are going to need a bigger
boat!”. LOL
The bottom line is
that these “scientists” who are trying to cover up their stinking mess are
ignoring new information as it presents itself, and are “all in” on stuffing all
the waste into one place in New Mexico which will, perhaps sooner rather than
later, become inaccessible and therefore impossible for us to deal with any
problem that comes up. And they don’t
care about you, they will lie to you.
The former president of WIPP (Mohammed Farok Shariff) went on video at the town hall meeting as
stating “it is like getting a dental X-ray”.
Ask him about that when you see him at the local grocery store buying a
chicken.
Hmmm, eh Mohammed, are you really telling the little people that sucking down plutonium is like a dental Xray? Wow.
Hmmm, eh Mohammed, are you really telling the little people that sucking down plutonium is like a dental Xray? Wow.
And now they tell you to trust them, they got it all figured out
now, and the only reason they are going slow now in getting back into the cave
is “because so many people are interfering”.
In the meantime, because the accident area is too hot to enter, they are paying over 1000 people full wages, while not working, at a cost to the taxpayer of around $640,000 a day. Seems like I could rent a robot and get them down there to assess things for less than a few million, right? They want to make sure the gravy keeps flowing so the whistle-blowers keep quiet.
In the meantime, because the accident area is too hot to enter, they are paying over 1000 people full wages, while not working, at a cost to the taxpayer of around $640,000 a day. Seems like I could rent a robot and get them down there to assess things for less than a few million, right? They want to make sure the gravy keeps flowing so the whistle-blowers keep quiet.
URS is the parent corporation of the private company who
runs WIPP under “family” supervision from DOE. URS also does work at Hanford where there
have been allegations from fired employees who claim they are whistleblowers who
were cautioning the company and DOE against the chances that mixed radioactive
liquids could off gas hydrogen and blow up in a massive accident. Does any of this sound familiar?
So folks, does that bring it home? Do you now know what
you need to do?
I've got it now stock over and out
ReplyDeleteGood deal, spread the word.
DeleteStock, mail for you. Please check mail again. Something we discussed yesterday & you were waiting for it.
DeleteThank you Stock,for your always informative and enlightening posts!
DeleteGot a lot out of your explanation. You are good, keep it up. I sent the link to a couple of talking types and a congressman.
ReplyDeleteExcellent, help spread the word
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWPxlFaDh28
ReplyDeleteThanks for your thoughts. Yeah, I know Hanford well and the whistle blower is a very good friend of mine. So true. I will call him tomorrow to talk to him about this. The difference is, he will tell me, is that WIPP is supposed to be the TRU Waste. Transuranic Waste. It is different from the highly radioactive waste that WIPP does want to get from Hanford and that of course, is off the table for the time being since the explosion happened. But Hanford has never been known for good record keeping. I wonder if in fact the drums that WIPP has received from Hanford is in fact all TRU waste or if they were trying to delude and elude the "officials" (DOE) and send over the highly radioactive waste anyway just to get it off Hanford's land. There is a HUGE push for the HRW to go away and WIPP was going to be the answer. This puts another major boulder in the field of cleanup for Hanford...this, being the explosion at WIPP. Hanford gets fined when they go beyond the due dates for completion. We went inside URS and filmed an underground video of me questioning their safety/whistle blower policy ....it's URS. They were full of shit. What's new. But anyway, what Walt was talking about was the unknown substances in the huge tanks at Hanford. Because they don't know what is in the mix along w/ the highly radioactive substances, that's why the explosion could happen from the tanks to the Pre-Treatment Bldg. The drums and the tanks are not supposed to be similar at all...but who really know, eh?
ReplyDeleteMimi
RadCast.org
Mimi, they are storing 20,000 barrels in WIPP with stuff way hotter than anything at Hanford, so hot that 1 liter could contaminiate 1 Billion Chickens
Deletehttp://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2014/02/wipp-busted-dead-to-rights-they-were.html
Thank you so much, for your hard work and insight. I will be visiting you here more often, as well as sharing as much as I can.
ReplyDeletePS Been following enenews for a long time now, quietly in the background.
This latest piece you have written gives me some hope that I may be able to get through to some of the younger folks.
With you in the fight. Peace
I recommend to not be a lurker, but to contribute and spread the word, especially to sites that don't normally see the truth. Mahalo!
DeleteHEPA Filter System Failed At WIPP Facility; What Is The REAL Story About Radiation Release? via @AGreenRoad
ReplyDeletehttp://agreenroad.blogspot.com/2014/03/hepa-filter-system-failed-at-wipp.html
Cool, glad you got that manual, it is useful evidence, more evidence as to the number of basic safety standards and codes they were breaking as they ramped up from 1 to 2 deliveries a week to 20 to 30 deliveries a week.
DeleteIf only I could get these assholes to give a shit.... :(
ReplyDeleteTake away their "precious" and you will get their attention
DeleteI love the costco chicken analogy.
ReplyDeleteThose types of images are helpful to visualize the situation which is harder for laymen like me to grasp, when just numbers.
Also, analogies can become viral and carry info far and wide.
Thank you.
Promote it please, send it far and wide, put it on websites and newsites that don't normally see truth.
DeleteBANANA SAFETY....
ReplyDeletehttp://i123.photobucket.com/albums/o287/combomelt/fukushimabananas_zpsb59bacbf.jpg
Hilarious! thank you very much
DeleteThanks Stock for doing the math & research, it helps us to better understand the issue.
ReplyDeleteDe Nada! Help tip it.
Deleteshared on Facebook. I just wish that I could convince other people to take the time from their day or night and read all of this. Excellent breakdown of info.
ReplyDeleteDo what you can, prepare for you and yours. We are near a tipping point. Help tip it the right way.
DeleteI hate to rain on your parade, but as a Carlsbad, NM, resident for 61 years and a former member of the media, I feel I have to interject some small amount of truth into your otherwise old lady hysteria. I will quote an article from the Carlsbad Current Argus of 3/20/2014, "On average, American receive a dose of 620 millirem per year, or roughly 1.7 per day, according to the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission..." Another quote from later in the article: "The radiation levels detected on March 4 are estimated to be equivalent to 0.5 millirem as reported by the DOE, up from an equivalent of 0.1 millirem on Feb. 18."
ReplyDeleteWIPP has enjoyed a flawless safety record since waste first began to be interred nearly a half mile underground in 1999. There is probably no other industry that can boast of such a record. Two neighbors on my street work at WIPP (I have no association with WIPP other than living in Carlsbad) and are unconcerned about the small release of radiation, other than wondering when operatiions will resume.
The hysteria promulgated by the media is understandable when you realize that members of the media are concerned first with making a name for themselves and second with selling advertising. Sensationalism is now the norm.
Whether nuclear energy is here to stay or not is debatable and has little to do with what we do with waste that currently exists and for the most part is stored temporarily in non-secure locations because a hysterical public hampers the development of safe and secure long term storage.
The salt beds near Carlsbad are probably the most stable geological formations for disposal of these materials that have been discovered. Continued disposal of nuclear waste, whether low level TRU waste that is currently interred there, or high level waste, should that ever happen (it hasn't yet), will remove this waste from areas where real contamination is more likely to occur.
I don't expect this comment to change the mind of anyone who is prone to anti-nuclear hysteria. Hysteria has been a part of the human condition since ancient mariners challenged the idea that the earth was flat, and probably before.
from leonard chevvy
DeleteI don't understand why some think this is hysteria. (?)
What's important is that local measurements have increased since the incident. That is and should be a concern. Awareness relieves stress.
>>> Comparing the AVERAGE background number of 620 millirem per year is not a comparison when it comes to plutonium particles being ingested or inhaled.
The only 'truth', that I can see you've stated, is that your neighbors must not have a clue if they think they are going back to work anytime soon.
Salt Beds are NOT the most stable place for disposal of these materials. I believe that WIPP will soon prove that.
- Anonymous ;)
Aloha Randy, you will find here, cold and logical facts. And occasionally some emotional or empathetic aspect. But no hysteria.
DeleteRandy-"On average, American receive a dose of 620 millirem per year....
stock--Randy, when it comes to nuclear anything, they start with lies out of the gate. In fact they always try to lie about the "baseline", see here
http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/p/baseline-is-just-one-of-lies.html
Attempting to describe the release from WIPP in terms of "just radiation" is a lie of epic proportions. The releases are Plutonium and Americium.
Compared to the "average" Beta or Gamma, Plutonium needs a massive multiplier to depict its damaging effect on the human body. We don't know exactly how bad it is compared to say a chest Xray, but say 20000 to 112000 times worse. Review this and educate yourself.
http://nukeprofessional.blogspot.com/2014/03/relative-risks-of-various-types-of.html
You are now touting a "flawless" safety record? Seriously? Are you following the news? Do you know they admitted a second release that was over twice the first release?
Looking forward to your response after reviewing the truth that I presented for your benefit.
Quote: "There is probably no other industry that can boast of such a record."
DeleteAn old friend (called common sense) told me once that if something seems too good to be true, it probably is.
People of carlsbad, STOP BELIEVING WHAT THE DOE SAYS AND DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!! True, Alpha emitters (Plutonium) are of little danger dose wise. Alpha radiation cannot perpetrate the skin, so this is a half truth they are telling you because Plutonium if inhaled or ingested is one of if not the most toxic materials on the face of the planet. That is what they aren't telling you!! Think of it as cyanide:If your standing next to it sitting in a bottle or laying on a table (external dose) little problem. BUT inhale it or ingest it (internal or uptake)...HUGE FREAKING PROBLEM!
DeleteQuit listening to their half truths..it's going to get you cancer or killed. How can you be so ignorant??
"as a Carlsbad, NM, resident for 61 years and a former member of the media"
ReplyDelete"WIPP has enjoyed a flawless safety record"
Your lack of education, knowledge, and general ignorance with regards to Nuclear Radiation is typical. You can't compare every day background exposure levels to the release and exposure to Plutonium and Americium. If you don't know the difference, you have no business posting your uneducated opinion.
If you DO know the difference, you're biased and have some stake in the continual operation of Nuclear Power as a whole.
"Old lady hysteria", typical labeling and insults directed at something you don't understand, or are too scared to fully grasp.
I don't understand why some think this is hysteria. (?)
DeleteWhat's important is that local measurements have increased since the incident. That is and should be a concern. Awareness relieves stress.
>>> Comparing the AVERAGE background number of 620 millirem per year is not a comparison when it comes to plutonium particles being ingested or inhaled.
The only 'truth', that I can see you've stated, is that your neighbors must not have a clue if they think they are going back to work anytime soon.
Salt Beds are NOT the most stable place for disposal of these materials. I believe that WIPP will soon prove that.
- Anonymous ;)
We breathe in Pu as a component of background radiation.
ReplyDeleteCould you please explain your point in more detail, indicating what the background levels of Pu are in your area, and your point, then we can have a discussion of relevance.
Deleteactually Pu has been flying around the atmosphere since the dawn of the ages. Its only recently (the last 60 years) that man has been able to measure it and the last 13 since 911, when radiation instrument technology has emerged a quantum leap above the previous generation that the minutest amount of transuranics can be detected. Just because we can detect them, doesnt make it inherrently dangerous. Man has been living on a radioactive planet since the days of burning coal and before. You need to understand the various source term mechanisms that NATURALLY occur just because this is a radioactive planet.
DeleteHate to burst your bubble, but quote "Man has been living on a radioactive planet since the days of burning coal" because of the radioisotopic content of said coal. Oxidizing such radioisotopes was an amazing delivery method as it was both solid at room temperature and water soluble.
DeleteWhat was it? Out of a 112 boxcar train, at least the contents of one or two were Uranium?
That is certainly an artificial process.
Quote: ..." radiation instrument technology has emerged a quantum leap above the previous generation that the minutest amount of transuranics can be detected."
Good luck making a room clean enough for those kinds of detections with today's "new background" levels. Somebody needs to learn how to harness all that free background bullshit now, as it might be enough to power a small mobile.
@Dud, thanks for responding to the "background apologist"
Deletethe amount truly natural Pu from a very rare reaction of uranium is like 1 in a Trlllion....
Is that a serious statement?
ReplyDeleteHit the reply directly under the comment you want to reply to. Yeah I saw that too. Anon trying to play the "background" lie
DeleteAs a retired nuke professional let me state what I know and what rumors I hear... lol
ReplyDeleteYes, you are spot on on your assessment of Pu inhalation, but we can NOT state that to general public or we would have never got any nuke plant off the drawing paper. Also, I myself was one of these dose is dose guys for years. I now fully comprehend dose is not dose when you take into account an uptake. If dose was dose, why are so many of my friends dying or dead from Rocky Flats. So, basically we spread the lie so long that we as professionals even believe it, but hey somebody has got to do the work.
Now what I hear, there was off gassing in panel 7, I heard major VOC's and the bosses were warned. I imagine a lot of it was more than likely Hydrogen. When the fire broke out, the fire system on the truck and a fire extinguisher both failed! They both were serviced by a fire suppression company that isn't very reputable and rumor has it there may have been kickbacks given to keep this lush contract. I was told this company isn't even supposed to be working on these systems as he isn't an authorized service rep by this manufacturer. I looked it up and found this to be a true statement. So, the audit did prove the system didn't work as stated. When the complex shifted into filtration mode, the air flow was greatly slowed and the "believed" result was a type of back Draft explosion from the offgasing fumes traveling down to the fire and then flashing back into the active panel resulting in an explosion. Yes I looked at and pulled the doe report on the fire. Also I got a tip the seismic equipment has not worked in years and sure enough..There is a lack of reporting on this subject. Now, as far as ground stability is concerned there is as HUGE difference between salt domes like in Houston and the salt the WIPP is built in. These ancient sea beds and layered with clay, iron, ash, etc. NOT like salt domes.. (hint hint) So, the million dollar question for me is : Who kept this fire system company in business and are they going to prosecute them? Why risk workers lives? Fill it full of cement...have we started pumping yet?
I'll look back for questions and answer when I can.
God Bless with this mess.
thanks for the comments. True, even, maybe especially professionals trained in a business come to believe the lies they have been told. I see it all the time in the nuclear industry.
DeleteQ1: name of fire suppresion inspection company if you know it?
Q2: What about the layering of clay, iron, ash on WIPP salt formations
Quote: "Yes, you are spot on on your assessment of Pu inhalation, but we can NOT state that to general public or we would have never got any nuke plant off the drawing paper."
DeleteIt's too late to stop them.
If only we had come to our senses earlier.
Instead of "Atoms For Peace", it appears we have "pieces of atoms", as a "trickle-down" affect.
I wonder if the seismic equipment malfunctions had anything to do with any possible unforseen nearby drilling, etc.
Is Hydrogen able to act as an oxidizer in the context of such storage?
Thanks, gentlemen.
Sorry so long, what I could find was the service company's name is Southwest Safety Specialists. The system is an Ansul system and he is NOT listed as a distributor on their Web site. I don't remember the names of the clay formation but 20 years ago we called it clay "G" and they used to mine the roof along this line until they had some problems in panel 2 and learned the clay was acting as a slip sheet and not allowing the salt to close in uniformly. There are several layers of salt formations and plenty of info on net. Thanks again.
DeleteAt anon, thanks for the safety company name. If you can research it more and provide some details that will be great, I will also crowd source the information/research
DeleteHere what I found on my own search. WIPP ' s safety record is as deceitful as we thought! There are numerous permit violations that have been swept under the rug! Cesium uptake, worker almost killed in parking lot, backfalls, non-compliance on numerous incidents. They even had a 13 Curie Pu-Be source that made it into their waste stream and got stored in the underground before anyone caught it! That is WAY past their acceptance criteria. The safety company quoted above has been the service provider on numerous fires where the systems were either installed or serviced by this company! Ansul said the system that was installed on the truck that caught fire should have been more than adequate to extinguish the fire if the system was working and had been properly serviced, period. That system even had an automatic detection device that didn't need human interaction to activate! Report after the fire said it had been turned off!!???!! So in my feeble mind, I'm wondering who the owner of this "safety" company is related to??!!
Delete@anon, can you provide link to WIPP backup on safety violations.
DeleteMust be Berillium 10? The only one with long half life?
It's on DOE'S website, but you have to have a sign in to access it. (Q clearance) The Plutonium Berillium source was accidentally thrown into a drum at another facility then shipped to WIPP. The rad tech that caught it at wipp, noted on his survey the drum was over 300 m/Rem (millirem) Neutron radiation an hour @ 30 cm !! WOW Upon trying to locate the worker that shipped the source, it was noted he no longer worked for the company (conviently) so no further information was available!!!! Wow !!
DeleteI find your research flawed and incredulous.
ReplyDeleteHoly crap, that is spot on. Why aren't these wipp incidents made public? And how in the hell does a 13 Curie source just go missing? Now that's bullshit!! Guess we can gather their drum loading protocol is total BS. One thing I'm curious about is the fire contractor. Don't you have to meet certain criteria before becoming a contractor for the government? I didn't think any fly by night company could get a contract??
Delete@Red Craig, I wish Disqus allowed a partial edit on comments that do not comply with blog guidleine, similar to what the NRC would do on their blog, which I frequent. I someone gets a little too ranty, or is just basically slinging mud....then those comments are worthless and degrade from the blog and the valuable time of the people who visit. As such, your comment made no specific allegation or value added, taking a shotgun approach to "hysterical" and "fear mongers"
ReplyDeletePlease add value and your comments will be appreciated even if they go against our well studied, and decidedly anti-nuclear stance,
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This really isnt very scientific.
ReplyDeleteDon't just drop a Turd, elaborate on your concerns and be specific.
DeleteAnd maybe comment on your pay website that prior to becoming paid, encouraged people to buy precious metals at near peak prices. thank you for the response.
this troll has been everywhere .... check IP address ...
DeleteAt FCF: Indeed I pegged the trolls IP and its at Oak Ridge, imagine that.
DeleteStock,
ReplyDeleteJust want you to know the 1st commenter, "Douglas", is not the same one who's been commenting in Conca's Forbes'.
This is the Douglas who comments @ Forbes.
Identify the IP address, and note the "chicanery"!
Yeah!
Great read and info stock and thank you for your continued good works!
ReplyDeleteCisco
right on Cisco, please stop in and participate often. stock out
DeleteThe football field is one hundred sixty-feet broad.
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