2 Main Legal Issues
1) Goldwater Rule prevents mental health professionals from making a diagnosis or taking a position on someone else's mental health, unless they have personally examined that person.
2) There is a "Duty to Warn" which allows or requires a mental health professional to break patient confidentiality if they believe a patient may pose a danger to themselves or others.
stock adding: The 100% Liberal group of "professionals" who wrote a book detailing Trump's supposed many mental illnesses (which comes out OCT 3) are pretending that the Duty to Warn applies to the Trump situation, which clearly it doesn't. They are attempting scoot around the Goldwater Rule, and methinks setting themselves up for a libel or defamation lawsuit or being debarred professional or university affiliations.
http://www.ncsl.org/research/health/mental-health-professionals-duty-to-warn.aspx
Consider this. America is now down trodden with mental illness, way over medicated with dangerous stuff that sometimes helps depression, but we also find that mass murderers are very commonly on psychiatric drugs.
And the whole "Mental Health" industry is OK with this. Turns a blind eye to it, participates in it, is complicit with the Pharmaceutical industry. To call most of them "experts" when this obvious huge grievous disservice to the public is being foisted on them, is an insult to "science".
But per the snippets we are allowed to see, they are going to, from afar, diagnose the President of the
From Amazon books |
- Impulsive
- Unbridled and extreme present hedonism
- Pathological narcissism
- Paranoia taken to an extreme
- Sociopathy
- “Malignant normality” that can set in everyday life if psychiatrists do not speak up.
- Trump is so dangerous, his various insanity are contagious and you can "catch it"
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stock here: There are battle lines drawn. It's the recent 4 decades old push by the Globalists, the Zionists (mostly Jews) who have needed to weaken America and Europe, in order to roll out a One World Government that is much stronger than the UN, even though they use the UN for current purposes.
Lots of smart and caring people get sucked into the diatribe, too. A pre-disposition to lean one way in thinking, was co-opted by the Globalist cause, and manipulated into a tool to further the Centralized World Government control scheme.
So when I saw promotion of this book coming out in October 3, I figured it would be worth a little expert to look into these "Experts" and see what their backgrounds were. It was funny that it took little more than 30 minutes to get a pretty clear view and trend.
It's a "Liberal" thing. The Liberal "cause" has been co-opted by the Globalists that be. The liberals don't realize their role in multi-point strategy to bring America to it's knees, to eliminate the Constitution, and the resilient, morally grounded, Christian middle class, at least eliminate their financial stability and overall opportunity for action.
But right after the book quote below I want to show some critiques of the article (highlighted in red), which were nicely done and eliminated a lot of work that I would have had to do.
------------------------------------------------- From the Article to Pre-Announce
Philip Zimbardo and Rosemary Sword, for instance, explain Trump’s impulsivity in terms of “unbridled and extreme present hedonism.” Craig Malkin writes on pathological narcissism and politics as a lethal mix. Gail Sheehy, on a lack of trust that exceeds paranoia. Lance Dodes, on sociopathy. Robert Jay Lifton, on the “malignant normality” that can set in everyday life if psychiatrists do not speak up.
His madness is catching, too. From the trauma people have experienced under the Trump administration to the cult-like characteristics of his followers, he has created unprecedented mental health consequences across our nation and beyond.
It’s not all in our heads. It’s in his.---------------------------------------------------
A critique of the article come from many commenters. But this short summary with a linked
extended rebuttal caught my eye. This is a comment on the Independent Whig.
Here is a supposed justification on why psychology is so heavily "liberal".
https://heterodoxacademy.org/2015/11/07/why-are-there-so-few-non-liberals-in-social-psychology-a-closer-look/
And here is the full "debunk" if you wish to accept that word, related to the image snippet above.
https://theindependentwhig.com/2015/11/11/a-response-to-why-are-there-so-few-non-liberals-in-social-psychology-a-closer-look/
UPDATE -- I was able to find the names of all of the "authors" in a pre-release on Amazon
Robert J Lifton was a key constructor, Bandy X. Lee is called the editor or author.
by
https://www.amazon.com/Making-Sense-Beauty-Creativity-Healing/dp/143312596X/ref=la_B072YQ8TYZ_1_2/131-9481125-3151361?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1506528294&sr=1-2The head author, or editor, Bandy Lee, has one other book I could find. Her "expertise" in diagnosis mental disorders doesn't seem supported by this other book
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Beginning with a powerful essay on the individually and globally therapeutic qualities of art and beauty by Elaine Scarry of Harvard University, this volume brings together a diversity of theoretically minded scholars, scientists, artists, and healers. In the form of critical and reflective essays, alongside images, poetry, and fiction, this book allows the reader to experience the bursts of ideas and sensory triggers that respond to and extend the artistic installations and performances of the colloquium – and welcomes the reader into the conversation.
I picked one of the "Experts" Jennifer Contarino Panning who after some brief research does not look like much of an expert in
remotely diagnosing mental illness, but also has radical political views and pushes Congressmen in Illinois to "Impeach Trump".
FAcebook Impeach Trump
It seems a bit extreme to have an expert expressing a psychoological opinion to also talk like this, as she does
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------Jennifer Contarino Panning
Thank you! Senator Durbin we need your and Senator Duckworth's leadership now more than ever...please band together with your fellow congress people who care more about our country than their party to impeach this unstable, impulsive, thinks he's above the law, man in the white house...please!Mark Doering
Jennifer, the laws are already on the books, they are simply being enforced finally.Jennifer Contarino Panning
Mark Doering the laws stating that the president has no checks and balances? Thanks for the mansplaining but I don't think so...Marc Sweda
Their leadership hasn't done much to help the state of Illinois recently, so keep praising their effort!Jennifer Contarino Panning
Marc Sweda we are talking about issues that are impacting the entire country here...
One of the earliest outspoken "Experts" on Trump, Dr. John Gartner, has some awful reviews on
healthgrades
https://www.healthgrades.com/providers/john-gartner-28f97
Call him if you wish (410) 337-8207
Or email
jg@johngartner.com
or
johndgartner@comcast.net
He is on Facebook here
https://www.facebook.com/john.gartnerphd
If you asked me to pick a face to exemplify a sociopath, his would be the face. LOL linked in with the New York Times...... http://www.johngartner.com/
LOL he also writes in the Washington Post, about economics of mass immigration.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/10/AR2006041001385.html
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It seems like each one of these "authors" I research is a real character. This guy looks like a nice "relationship guy", but does that qualify him to judge, regardless of the Goldwater directive, Trump's supposed personality disorders?
7/26/2017, 5:46amstock here----uh, how does that mesh with co-authoring a book to state that Trump is seriously insane in a number of ways, and asking for his impeachment.
UMN professor hits the road to bridge political divide
Bill Doherty brought together Trump critics and supporters across the nation in efforts to find common ground.
he is the first signature on this
A Public Manifesto
Citizen Therapists Against Trumpism
https://citizentherapists.com/manifesto/----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Leonard L. Glass M.D. M.P.H. resigned in April 2017, after 41 years, from the American Psychiatric
Association.
The APA responded by doubling down on professionalism
One month later, perhaps in response, the ethics committee issued a new interpretation of the Goldwater Rule. While the language of the underlying code remained unchanged, the committee’s new opinion made it clear that the prohibition was not restricted to making diagnoses, stating that it “applies to all professional opinions offered by psychiatrists, not just diagnoses.”4 The APA statement continues:You may have to sign up for a free account to read this
of the APA
http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/dealing-american-psychiatrys-gag-rule
Doctor Leonard L. Glass
115 Mill Street
Mclean Hospital
Belmont, Massachusetts 02478
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To understand the ramifications of what they are trying to ascribe to Trump as serious mental illnesses (multiple), lets look at what these illnesses really mean----
Sociopathic
stock here--going to add a few from my studies of sociopathy--
- They have a need to lie, they lie even when there is no upside to the lie
- No conscience -- Makes it hard to use lie spotter techniques because they have no physical reactions to lying.
- They love sex, as it help create their ultimate control over their victim.
- Superficial charm and good intelligence
- Absence of delusions and other signs of irrational thinking
- Absence of nervousness or neurotic manifestations
- Unreliability
- Untruthfulness and insincerity
- Lack of remorse and shame
- Inadequately motivated antisocial behavior
- Poor judgment and failure to learn by experience
- Pathologic egocentricity and incapacity for love
- General poverty in major affective reactions
- Specific loss of insight
- Unresponsiveness in general interpersonal relations
- Fantastic and uninviting behavior with alcohol and sometimes without
- Suicide threats rarely carried out
- Sex life impersonal, trivial, and poorly integrated
- Failure to follow any life plan
The bottom line is that a narcissist is completely incapable of love and void of empathy.
This person will never ever ever love you. Any overtures they have made that appear to be love have simply been to get you to admire them. Yet, because they suffer from feelings of inadequacy, they actually disdain those who admire them. There is NO winning with the narcissist.------------------------------------------------------------------------
Pathological is usually another word for personality disorder. However, personality disorder is typically established as an official diagnosis. There are many people with personality disorders who have never been diagnosed. And since you shouldn't go around diagnosing people who don't subject themselves to it, it's better to use "pathological."
The clinical definition is a DSM Axis II personality disorder whereas pathological narcissism is more an observation.
stock here --- Bill Moyer, in my humble opinion, has become "quite the piece of work". He does a lengthy interview with the head author of the article, link HERE
It is interesting how many clearly false arguments and false associations are used. I will repeat a phrase I used above, and please read after considering the following paragraph from the interview.
From the article, note the often used Nazi reference.stock here----Consider this. America is now down trodden with mental illness, way over medicated with dangerous stuff that sometimes helps depression, but we also find that mass murderers are very commonly on psychiatric drugs.
And the whole "Mental Health" industry is OK with this. Turns a blind eye to it, participates in it, is complicit with the Pharmaceutical industry. To call most of them "experts" when this obvious huge grievous disservice to the public is being foisted on them, is an insult to "science".
We have to contest it, because it is malignant normality. For the contributors to this book, this means striving to be witnessing professionals, confronting the malignancy and making it known.
Moyers: Witnessing professionals? Where did this notion come from?
Lifton: I first came to it in terms of psychiatrists assigned to Vietnam, way back then. If a soldier became anxious and enraged about the immorality of the Vietnam War, he might be sent to a psychiatrist who would be expected to help him be strong enough to return to committing atrocities. So there was something wrong in what professionals were doing, and some of us had to try to expose this as the wrong and manipulative use of our profession. We had to see ourselves as witnessing professionals. And then of course, with the Nazi doctors I studied for another book — doctors assigned, say, to Auschwitz — they were expected to do selections of Jews for the gas chamber. That was what was expected of them and what for the most part they did — sometimes with some apprehension, but they did it. So that’s another malignant normality. Professionals were reduced to being automatic servants of the existing regime as opposed to people with special knowledge balanced by a moral baseline as well as the scientific information to make judgments.
So in the mental health crisis of USA and elsewhere, the "witnessing professionals", but in the wrong way, seems to be very relevant. stock here--- I don't see any justification for these 27 experts to claim a "moral baseline" when they go clearly out of their way in false arguments.....as exposed here:
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The Moyer interview was also picked up here, and you can leave comments.
https://heisenbergreport.com/2017/09/24/27-mental-health-experts-wrote-a-book-about-trump-heres-an-interview-with-one-of-them/
In this April 2017 Article, re Yale Psychiatrists, they rely heavily on references to Nazi's and Hitler and Atomic Bombs and Codes.
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Additional Summaries on the Goldwater Violating "Professionals" found on Huffpost no less
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-the-eye-of-the-hurricane_us_59c2c42de4b0be1b32c1969c
Bandy X. Lee, M.D., M.Div.
Assistant Clinical Professor in Law and Psychiatry,
Yale University School of Medicine, New Haven, CT
Philip Zimbardo, Ph.D.
Professor Emeritus of Psychology, Stanford University, Palo Alto, CA
Frederick M. Burkle Jr., M.D., M.P.H., D.T.M.
Psychiatrist, Pediatrician, and Professor of Emergency Medicine (retired),
Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA
Judith L. Herman, M.D.
Professor of Psychiatry, Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA
Leonard L. Glass, M.D., M.P.H.
Associate Professor of Psychiatry, Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA
Henry J. Friedman, M.D.
Associate Professor of Psychiatry, Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA
Lance Dodes, M.D.
Assistant Clinical Professor of Psychiatry (retired), Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA
Dee Mosbacher, M.D., Ph.D.
(Former) Assistant Clinical Professor of Psychiatry,
University of California School of Medicine, San Francisco, CA
Nanette Gartrell, M.D.
(Former) Associate Professor of Psychiatry,
University of California School of Medicine, San Francisco, CA
David M. Reiss, M.D.
Private Practitioner of Psychiatry, San Diego, CA
Steve Wruble, M.D.
Private Practitioner of Psychiatry, New York, NY, and Ridgewood, NJ
Craig Malkin, Ph.D.
Lecturer of Psychiatry, Harvard Medical School, Boston, MA
Howard H. Covitz, Ph.D., A.B.P.P.
(Former) Director, Institute for Psychoanalytic Psychotherapies, Philadelphia, PA
John D. Gartner, Ph.D.
(Former) Assistant Clinical Professor of Psychiatry,
Johns Hopkins University School of Medicine, Baltimore, MD
Edwin B. Fisher, Ph.D.
Professor of Health Behavior, Gillings School of Global Public Health,
University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, NC
Michael J. Tansey, Ph.D.
Clinical Psychologist, Chicago, IL
Elizabeth Mika, M.A., L.C.P.C.
Clinical Psychologist, Chicago, IL
Harper West, M.A., L.L.P.
Licensed Psychotherapist, Clarkston, MI
Betty P. Teng, L.M.S.W.
Psychotherapist, Institute for Contemporary Psychotherapy, New York, NY
Diane Jhueck, L.M.H.C.
County Designated Mental Health Professional, Island County, WA
James A. Herb, M.A., Esq.
Florida Supreme Court-Certified Circuit Court Mediator, Boca Raton, FL
James Gilligan, M.D. Clinical Professor of Psychiatry, New York University School of Medicine, New York, NY
Michael J Tansey, PhD
Chicago, IL
drmjtansey.com
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Gartman goes on video record here as describing Trump as a Psychopathic Liar.
He further goes on to state that the best case scenario is that Trump is a Psychopathic Liar and the truth is far worse than that.
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Gartman goes on video record here as describing Trump as a Psychopathic Liar.
He further goes on to state that the best case scenario is that Trump is a Psychopathic Liar and the truth is far worse than that.
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