Crossing the Rubicon -- Internalizing the Knowledge that 911 Attacks were carried out by factions of the US government is a tough one for many to wrap their heads around. It is almost the magnitude of being to horrible to believe. Once you make this mental jump, crossing the Rubicon so to speak, it is sure hard to go back to your old comfortable ways of thinking you knew enough about how the world really worked.
I added a video at the bottom, supporting my assertion that a small nuke or nukes were used to take out the center core of the buildings, which together with the unique "exeskeleton" structure, were both needed to collapse these building on their own footprint. i.e. a demolition. It also shows rock sub grade floors below street level, and the obvious melted rock look should capture your attention.
So in
the winter of 49BC Caesar decide to take his army across the Rubicon and
start a civil war. By crossing the Rubicon he had passed the point of no return, committed
everything and gambled all. As he crossed the
Rubicon he turned to his men and shouted the immortal words, "The die is
cast."
On
January 10th, Caesar, with his faithful 13th Legion marched on Rome.
Over the next five years he
fought, bribed and negotiated his bloody way to the top.
I did not "cross this Rubicon" until last year. I found a source to USGS debris testing, and being an
expert in radiation, immediately noticed radio-isotopes that were present in ratios of hundreds of times more than would just be normal.
The evidence below indicates that micro-nuke bombs were used. Think
of the sociopathic attitudes that came up with that plan. Some would
question, do micro-nukes even exist, and indeed they do, since 1962 or
earlier. Watch the video at the far bottom that was declassified in
1997.
All the drama and buildup to Hurricane Irma, surrounding the threatened nuclear reactors at Turkey Point, but the real news happens after the hurricane.
I wrote the following in the comments section in response to a gov nuclear guy who wants this to be "no big deal" but it could be. --------------------------------------------- I think I have the Turkey Point 4 mysterious shutdown partly figured out. Turkey Point 4 has a refueling outage 10-31-17. They would do anything to not have to shut that reactor down, along with the increased inspections, review of all the service interval documentation, and most likely, the NRC finding that FPL was non compliant on some important issues, and would therefore not let them restart. FPL would rather save this non-compliant work items for the shutdown.
They also don't need any bad press at this time, I read somewhere that they go to trial in October for the ongoing tritium contamination that they have been busted on, after they knew about for years and did not report it.
Basically, they would have done anything not to shut this reactor down. Once a plant is shutdown, and has many problems, there is a decent chance that it is shut down forever. So even when they noticed the water levels dropping in the steam generator, they were trying to come up with some type of fix in order to avoid the SCRAM. While they were trying, the automatic systems initiated the SCRAM. It is much better to SCRAM from a lower output level, lower temperatures. SCRAMing from a high output puts a lot more shock on the system, again, not just putting more wear and tear on everything, but increasing the chance of something really going wrong. They SCRAMed from 88%, a high level, and curious why it was not 100%.
They claimed it was a manual SCRAM, but this is not credible for the reasons above.
A reporter from World Nuclear News contacted plant operators and got the information on how the plant had auto SCRAMed itself. Whoever they talked to "did not get the memo" that the NRC was going to report that it was a "manual SCRAM" meaning that they were really in control of the situation.
Ah, but you miss the main points: 1) Plant was running at 88% prior to "manual scram", which I believe to be an automatic SCRAM but they wanted to pretend they were in control 2) This is coincidental with the hurricane and shutdown of the other reactor. This is suspicious of a more important underlying problem 3) FPL made it a point to have NRC state there are no know major problems with the steam generators. Which makes me think the lady doth protest too much...why belabour this point, unless of course there was leakage, and therefore cross contamination and thus radiological release. The original steam generators only lasted 8 years, they were replaced around 1982, so the new set is now 35 years old. hmmmmmmm
Pressure to max out profits from this aging plants are clear cut as shown by the 2008 outage...
David Hoffman, a nuclear supervisor at Turkey Point, resigned over the incident and was subsequently sued by Florida Power and Light for return of a bonus. Hoffman countersued, claiming he was pressured to restart the reactors while they were in a condition which in his judgment made it unsafe to do so. Upper management wanted the reactors restarted during xenon dead time, which would have led to the operators at the controls having to continuously step control rods to safely manage reactor output.
Sequence of NRC reports:
NRC Friday Event Notifications
Turkey Point (3,4) 52952
Thursday 23:14 – NWS Hurricane Warning issued Friday 00:06 – Notification – Emergency Declared/Offsite Notification
Friday (no time specified) 'Updated' – no indication of what was updated (Convenient notification Friday at 00:06 ensures it won't be seen by public until Monday)
NRC Monday NRC notifications
Turkey Point (3,4) 52952
Identical notification appears again
Turkey Point (4) 52960
Sunday 18:55 Reactor only running at 88% for some unknown reason
- failure of loop 4C Steam Generator main feed regulating valve
- Loop 4C S/G [Steam Generator] water levels drop - Emergency Operating Procedures initiated
- Manual trip of reactor from 88% PWR (?)
- Auxiliary Feed Water initiated as designed [normal response]
- restored S/G water level
- Emergency Operation Procedures exited
- returned to General Operating Procedures
- Reactor at 0% PWR; in Hot Standby
For the textually challenged (me) here's a diagram: http://www.nucleartourist.com/images/rcs-c2.jpg
The blue juice in one of the 4 steam generators go too low, so they
pumped more in. The red juice got angry at all the commotion so the
operators shut the reactor down. The reactor operators don' t like it
when the red juice wants to leave the containment building and comes to
visit them. Unusual that reactor was at 88% – something else was happening that they're not saying.
Either the manual scram (if unplanned, i.e., not part of planned
shutdown) or the activation of the steam generator aux. feedwater system
would have required reporting.
The steam generator main feedwater valve is stuck/closed/secrewed up,
so they can't run steam through the turbines, cool it down and pump it
back into the steam generators through that valve like normal. That'e
the normal route for the secondary steam loop. Instead, they're pumping
auxiliary water into the steam generator thorough a different valve, and
then just dumping the steam produced into the air outside the plant.
That steam/water *shouldn't* be radioactive like the primary loop
steam/water, but isn't completely radiation-free, either.
In any case, the reactor doesn't care as long as the steam generators
are removing enough heat from the primary loop reactor water. That's
the red loop in the diagram that goes in/out the 4 steam generators'
U-tubes.
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At Browns Ferry they have 3 reactors, and they lost their cooling towers, not good. But they appear to keep running at 100% even though the operation is a critical portion of the safety system, and if one other component failed, they would have a radiation release.
"At 1000 EDT on September 9, 2017, the Division 2 Mechanical Draft
Cooling Tower (MDCT) fans were declared inoperable due to failure of the
over speed fan brake inverter. The brakes prevent fan over speed from a
design basis tornado. The MDCT fans are required to support operability
of the Ultimate Heat Sink (UHS). The UHS is required to support
operability of the Division 2 Emergency Equipment Cooling Water (EECW)
system. The EECW system cools various safety related components,
including the High Pressure Coolant Injection (HPCI) system room cooler.
An unplanned HPCI inoperability occurred based on a loss of the HPCI
Room Cooler. Investigation into why the Division 2 MDCT fan over speed
brake inverter failed is in progress. This report is being made pursuant
to 10CFR50.72(b)(3)(v)(D) as a condition that at the time of discovery
could have prevented the fulfillment of a safety function needed to
mitigate the consequences of an accident based on a loss of a single
train safety system."
The licensee entered two (2) LCO Action Statements (AS); 14-day LCO
AS 3.5.1 for ECCS (HPCI Inoperable) and 72-hour AS 3.7.2 for UHS. The
licensee has two spare inverters on-site. After replacement and
successful post-maintenance testing the licensee expects to exit both AS
before 72-hours.
The NRC Resident Inspector has been notified.
Power Reactor
Event Number: 52959
Facility: BROWNS FERRY
Region: 2 State: AL
Unit: [1] [2] [3]
RX Type: [1] GE-4,[2] GE-4,[3] GE-4
NRC Notified By: ANTHONY ALSUP
HQ OPS Officer: STEVE SANDIN
Emergency Class: NON EMERGENCY
10 CFR Section:
50.72(b)(3)(v)(A) - POT UNABLE TO SAFE SD
50.72(b)(3)(v)(B) - POT RHR INOP
50.72(b)(3)(v)(C) - POT UNCNTRL RAD REL
50.72(b)(3)(v)(D) - ACCIDENT MITIGATION
Person (Organization):
ERIC MICHEL (R2DO)
Unit
SCRAM Code
RX CRIT
Initial PWR
Initial RX Mode
Current PWR
Current RX Mode
1
N
Y
100
Power Operation
100
Power Operation
2
N
Y
100
Power Operation
100
Power Operation
3
N
Y
100
Power Operation
100
Power Operation
My suspicion was correct, it was an
automatic SCRAM from 88%. If they wanted a more controlled manual
SCRAM they would have taken it to 30% or so.
Two
nuclear units at St Lucie were able to continue operating as Hurricane
Irma made landfall in Florida. One unit at Turkey Point was shut down as
a precaution in advance of the storm as nuclear operators and
regulators put storm preparation procedures into action, while the other
shut down automatically because of a valve-related issue. ============================================ Mining Awareness always does good work. He/She picked up on this story and ran with it.
stock here-- I haven't run down the K85 rabbit hole at all. I have noted in my personal life of observation a massive amount of "cloud to cloud" lightning, which I cannot remember ever experiencing before. Also seems like more jet planes are getting hit.
TY to HoTaters for putting this all together at ENENEWS
Hello, Code. I have posted the link for a scholarly paper linking
the presence of atmospheric releases of Krypton-85 to storm activity.
Will either get the link and .pdf source from my library, or will try
to re-post it. Too bad we don't have ready access to archived material.
Personally try to save these links.
There was a good one that was easily found in 2011. Posted the link several times in 2011-2012.
Hopefully will be able to retrieve the entire article as it was published w/o restriction in the past.
It's probably on my desktop computer but will try to find it for
you. The main focus of the article I found (and likely a few others here
way back when) was the effect of Krypton 85 on storm activity,
specifically.
Don't recall seeing any inference or statement though in relation to
the formation of hurricanes. Don't know if that's what Dr. A. might have
said….
Here is more here: https://www.google.com/search?q=metereological+consequences+of+k-85&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
I also have a file which I have posted previously on enenews.com, but
I'm really busy right now. The thorium industry wants to allow more
K-85 into the atmosphere because they can't operate on the present EPA
restrictions.
There was a letter to the EPA saying that they needed to have the restrictions lifted for allowable K-85.
The sad thing is that they will keep reprocessing uranium, etc., and
using nuclear technology until a storm will come along and melt down all
the reactors.
Trump is wanting small nuclear "tactical" weapons. The destruction
of the earth is. in my opinion, almost complete because too many
politicians around the world have no knowledge of the horrible
consequences of radiation to all life.
stock, for understanding the effect of krypton, read this paper on
the influence of cosmic rays modulated by the suns magnetic field on
earths climate via nucleation of low level clouds. The main thing
required to understand the role of krypton is to compare the ionization
potential of cosmic rays, and krypton, maybe look at carbon 14 and radon
too. This SHOULD give a relative perspective.
You would like the paper because most of the climate change observed
can be ascribed to modulation of cosmic rays by the sun and subsequent
variation in cloud cover which has forcing potential of 20 to 25
watts/m2 http://www.earthscienceindia.info/pdfupload/tech_pdf-9.pdf
solar effect on cloud nucleation at lower altitudes is an order of magnitude larger than previously assumed http://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1748-9326/9/4/045004/pdf
another interesting paper on the association of cosmic ray nucleation of clouds and its effect on climate http://insa.nic.in/writereaddata/UpLoadedFiles/PINSA/2017_Art41.pdf
My first inclination would be to think krypton could cool the
climate. But the situation is complex with latent heat moving with winds
and the time delay brought by nucleation changing the regions where
energy flow and shading may occur. Clouds over mid latitudes have a
different effect on climate than at the poles
'Direct formation of sulphate CN is conceivable in atmospheric air
by radioactivity, and charging of molecular clusters leads to greater
collisions rates than for neutral clusters. Modification of the ice
nucleation efficiency of aerosol could also have atmospheric effects
through latent heat release.' https://link.springer.com/article/10.1023/A%3A1026708415235
'global cloud cover has decreased during
the last century. Simple estimates indicate that the consequent global warming could be
comparable to that presently attributed to greenhouse gases from the burning of fossil
fuels.
These observations suggest that solar variability may be linked to climate variability
by a chain that involves the solar wind, cosmic rays and clouds'
the mechanism of cloud nucleation by ion clusters and oxidation
reactions is explained in appendix D, but the whole thing looks
interesting.
Now compare the 18 to 68 ion pair/secon from cosmic rays to the krypton and you get a feel for relative impact https://arxiv.org/pdf/physics/0104048.pdf
On another note, I am reading a book on organic vegan farming.
According to the laws of energy, the means to replenish farming all
comes from plant based sources. Humans and other animals are consumers
of that energy, not producers.
Animal manure works only because the animals have eaten plants, but
with a huge loss of the original energy by the time it has been used to
fertilize fields. Modern farming also uses fossil fuels which also is a
waste of energy and destructive to the environment.
Ref. below is fr. footnotes at Wikipedia. Need to find the
scholarly paper discussing how Kr-85 is specifically linked to increased
storm activity. That does exist. It's easier to find studies discussing
atmospheric conductivity.
Winger; et al. (2005). "A new compilation of the atmospheric
85krypton inventories from 1945 to 2000 and its evaluation in a global
transport model". Jrnl of Envir Radioactivity. 80: 183–215.
doi:10.1016/j.jenvrad.2004.09.005.
Might be stuck w. Elsevier references & need to purchase the
article. (It was avail. for free.) Linking to DOE Technical Paper from
1978; poss. the most credible source readily available. Some
anti-nuclear critics link the presence of Krypton 85 to climate change.
(That's a stretch & poss. a bogus argument). Full texr of paper
avail. in .pdf format here: https://www.osti.gov/scitech/biblio/7076284
Basically the hypothesis tested was: does presence of Kr-85 in the
atmosphere alter the natural ionization background? Explores potential
consequences of an altered electrical state of the atmosphere.
Estim. levels of atmospheric Kr-85: https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-94-011-0982-6_26?no-access=true http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/1352231094900418
Article above discusses environmental radioactivity
air conductivity.
This one might be the one discussing weather and climate effects:
Kollert, R. and Bitzin, M.: 1989, ‘Climatic Aspects of Radioactive Gases, in Particular Krypton-85’, Kollert-Donderer, Bremen.
(Will see if it's avail. w/o doing the "Google Scholar" bit.) https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-94-011-0982-6_26
From this preview .pdf: As of publication date in 1989 (and things may have changed dramatically since then), the…
"estimated air load of Kr-85 is eight orders of magnitude larger than
the natural Kr-85 radiation background of 100 nBq/m3 corresponding to a
total natural Kr-85 inventory of 400 GBq (NCRP, 1975)…. This is the
KR-95 inventory shown in Figure 1 as the natural background existing
before 1945."
This is interesting, from Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krypton-85
"However, as of 2009 the total amount in the atmosphere is estimated
at 5500 PBq due to anthropogenic sources.[5] At the end of the year
2000, it was estimated to be 4800 PBq,[4] and in 1973, an estimated 1961
PBq (53 Megacuries).[6] The most important of these human sources is
nuclear fuel reprocessing. Nuclear fission produces about three atoms of
krypton-85 for every 1000 fissions; i.e. it has a fission yield of
0.3%.[7] Most or all of this krypton-85 is retained in the spent nuclear
fuel rods; spent fuel on discharge from a reactor contains between
0.13-1.8 PBq/Mg of krypton-85…."
Stats from prior to 2011 and Fukushima accident.
Code, what do you think of the following?
The following is interesting. "HoTaters" gets plastered all over the
internet. Hmmn, in association with the alleged climate change effects
of Kr-85. (Sigh.) Guess that happens if you comment a lot, and people
talk (which they do).
The original post quoted is from an intelligent & thoughtful post
from Horse, in response to one of our earlier discussions here re:
Kr-85.
"RE: Krypton-85 & Climate – Horse – 03-24-2017
@ HoTaters, Noticed your interest in Kr-85 and extreme storms, one of my interests too.
Quote:Lescaudron, Pierre; Knight-Jadczyk, Laura (2014-05-22).
Earth Changes and the Human-Cosmic Connection (The Secret History of the
World) (Kindle Locations 2031-2035). Red Pill Press. Kindle Edition. http://www.redpillpress.com/shop/earth-changes-human-cosmic-connection-secret-history-world-series-volume-3/
Nuclear plants exhibit similar properties. They emit ionizing
radiation which ‘scrape away’ electrons from molecules, creating
positive and negative ions. [307]
In the conductive plume, the negative ions are attracted to the top
of the plume by the positive ionosphere, while the positive ions are
attracted to the bottom of the plume by the Earth’s negative surface.
The fact that nuclear plant plumes are mostly composed of water vapor, a
good electric conductor, eases the ionic movement described above and
the upward flow of free electrons from the ground to the top of the
plume…."
from comment by Horse and quotation, (cont.)
Very interesting!
"On April 18th, 2013 the LaSalle nuclear plant in Illinois
experienced an unusual incident: two of its reactors shut down and a
radioactive venting procedure was carried out when it was struck by
lightning. However, from 1992 to 2003, U.S. nuclear plants were struck
by lightning 66 times, yet none of those strikes caused equipment damage
or radioactive leakage. [309]
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So, what really happened in LaSalle? Was the accident simply due to
an insulator defect, as claimed by the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory
Commission (NRC), [310] or was the source of this ‘lightning’ something
out of the ordinary? Nuclear plants are very well protected with
lightning prevention equipment, [311] but cometary discharges exhibit
two major differences when compared to ‘normal’ lightning bolts: their
polarity is reversed [312] and their intensity can be much higher. The
steady increase in cometary activity may cause more such events in the
near future."
From Horse:
"Good book with more on the Electric Universe theories, I bought the
kindle version. Plumes of water vapor are a good conductor; Krypton is
an even better conductor. Most lightning is negative but some lightning
can be positive and 10X stronger than the negative. Krypton-85, with
its 10.8 year half-life, wasn’t in the atmosphere until the Atomic
Age…."
Horse, cont.
"Bomb testing 60 years ago, most of it had beta decayed into stable
rubidium. Industrial NPP releases have been steadily increasing as more
were put online and numerous accidents along the way were dumping this
in the lower atmosphere instead of blowing it up into the upper
atmosphere where it would spend some time decaying before falling on our
heads.
Fuku was four big accidents and fuel melt blobs are still in an
uncontained and unknown state. In the early years I noticed lots of
intense storms on the tepcams; fog, rain, and lightning. Remember the
red lightning; that was positive lightning. As the plume spread over
the northern hemisphere other areas began experiencing more extreme
weather events. The plume acts as a radioactive cathode to deliver a
stronger charge to ground. Charged particles from solar wind and upper
atmospheric cometary dust loading find an amplified path to ground in
the plume."
From personal observation (HoTaters), the atmospheric effects of the
Fuku releases in March and April, 2011 were massive. We had rainouts in
N. California of nearly Biblical proportions; massive storm cells such
as I had NEVER seen. Everyone (inc. all the "old timers" 80-90 years
old) said the storms were unprecedented.
So on some level, we may have to talk about anecdotal reports. But the link to the increased storm activity exists.
Just have to find that derned reference again!
Code, what do you think of the discusson re: Kr-85, positive and
negative lightning polarity, red lightning, Tepcam observations, and the
presence of Kr-85 having a cathode-like effect?
I'm not up to speed on electrical energy and its behavior.
What do you make of this? You are better able to analyze the data in interpret it.
And Jebus, you, too, might understand this and be well qualified to comment.
Anyone else care to chime in?
My personal research on the weather in N. California and Oregon,
parts of Washington State showed lots of heavy rain activity in March
and April, 2011. Would have to check the rainfall data (precip. figures)
for accurate info. I did check the rainfall for N. Cali. on the
approximate date the plume might have made landfall after Reactor 3
detonated/got wrecked. There was a very intense rainstorm around
Marysville and Yuba City the date the plume likely arrived. Wind and jet
stream patterns showed the precip. for No. Calfornia was pushed into
that area, where there was heavy rainfall.
Commenting on some of this pushes me back to trying to recapture data
I'd studied back in 2011-2012. Some of the data is hard to find again.
Wikipedia article cont.
"The average atmospheric concentration of krypton-85 was
approximately 0.6 Bq/m3 in 1976, and has increased to approximately 1.3
Bq/m3 as of 2005.[4][10] These are approximate global average values;
concentrations are higher locally around nuclear reprocessing
facilities, and are generally higher in the northern hemisphere than in
the southern hemisphere.
For wide-area atmospheric monitoring, krypton-85 is the best indicator for clandestine plutonium separations.
Krypton-85 releases increase the electrical conductivity of
atmospheric air. Meteorological effects are expected to be stronger
closer to the source of the emissions."
Wondering what accidents like WIPP, Hanford incidents, other, may have done to the total atmospheric loading. https://www.researchgate.net/publication/6044655_Meteorological_Consequences_of_Atmospheric_Krypton-85
Can download abstract in Excel. Must join ResearchGate to get full article access (or find it somewhere else).
Majia is cited here: http://caferadlab.com/printthread.php?tid=168
Majia cited the possible effect of the Fukushima accident on atmospheric Kr-85 levels.
OK, practically wrote a novel here, LOL. Don't want to wallpaper.
Will post further discussion at the Nuclear Issues Forum so I don't go
too far afield. This is what happens when I more or less take a week off
from reading here! Down the rabbit hole I go!
Would just like to suggest to others who do research here, try to
capture your data & citations. It is very useful later on and keeps
ya from having to re-invent the wheel.
That being said, I really appreciate the posts from Hillbilly, roger
that, Jebus, Code, stock, Drs. G and A, Majia (whom I miss), and so many
others….
Recency Bias, it can affect anyone, even if on guard for it.
Hurricanes are becoming less frequent, although it does appear that larger hurricanes are being
generated, but there really are just a handful of Class 5 hurricanes that have made landfall in the USA. So that data is sparse enough, that I can't put much stock in it.
Nice Site with charts https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2013/04/28/latest-hurricane-stats-from-noaa/
---------------------------------------------------------- My tinfoil hat says this weather hype is related to the powers that be who bought up major weather outlets, and the need to both panic people, and hype "climate change" with the concurrent transfer of wealth and control of energy via the CO2 meme.
We have had a dearth of hurricanes, very stable weather
But then this apparently scientific and statistical approach, says it could be just chance. kind of funny their reluctance to try to create a hypothesis, and instead just "conclude". They must be paid gov climate "scientists" who can't think their way out of a grant bag.
Hmmm......longest "drought" of hurricanes in recorded history, and NASA concludes it is "just luck", because otherwise someone might point the finger at the lie called man made global warming.
Last week, the operators of the South Texas Nuclear plant refused to shut down even those predicted flood levels would have swamped them. The NRC refused to shut them down.
Now with Irma approaching, the operator, Florida Power and Light, AND the NRC were pretending that they were going to shut down these 4 plants. But they have always hedged with weasel words. They can make a few extra Million if they don't shut down and get lucky. Or they can cause a multi Trillion dollar eco-disaster.
So now NRC is fine with what the operator is doing, and will not take a stand to tell them to shut down adequately in front of the storm. Days is far better than hours, especially when something can go wrong. And they are definitely weaseling back on St. Lucie being shut down, hoping the hurricane weakens.
With expected 40 foot waves, and the plants right on the ocean, it seems rather curious they dont take
At the
far bottom are maps of the nuclear plants and the projected
trajectories. But the story below is the real story, they are set up
for flooding, like Fukushima.
Added at bottom,
photos of 1992 Turkey Point serious damage to critical systems. This
storm was around 140MPH, Irma may be 200. The way wind power works is
a squared law. Irma will be twice as strong.
If you like this information, please sign up as a follower. I might think someone is actually listening.
Hurricane Andrew Hit Turkey Point 1992. There were a ton of
"lessons learned" generated in a letter, but not implemented. The
nuclear cartel has captured the NRC and the NRC has no balls to force
them to shut down now.
Some very serious problems were close to happening, like a stack
damaged and falling on the generator building, loss of that building
would lead to a meltdown, a Fukushima.
The on site water tank collapsed onto the fire water system,
destroying it. Any plant fire would not have been put out, and the
result….a meltdown, a Fukushima
The number 1 concern of the NRC was the timing of the shutdown, the
longer it is shutdown, the safer it is due to heat generated by
half-lives and heat removal.
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Video of Irma -- What could possibly go wrong at a nuke plant
They have several flooding
scenarios, one is LIP (Locally Intense Precipitation) another is the
PMSS (Probable Maximum Storm Surge).
They
store emergency equipment in other buildings as part of a FLEX
strategy. These systems need retrieval, movement, and installation in
order to work. This is not at all realistic during a flood.
See the green highlights, they are hanging their hats on the flood going completely away in 75 minutes. SERIOUSLY!
They
are basis how long their batteries will last, based upon disconnecting
loads to allow the absolutely essential loads to be powered. During an
emergency is not when you want to be manually disconnecting loads.
You may shut off something that is absolutely essential, with disastrous
meltdown results.
Then they are planning to bring a
large generator from another building and install it. AGAIN, in an
emergency and a flood, they are not going to be able to accomplish this
work. The gensets should be in place and ready to go!!!! Not to be
installed during a flood! This borders on insanity
The
Component Cooling Water (CCW) area is super important because if you
can't cool the reactor and associated equipment, you can have a
meltdown, think Fukushima. The Turbine building is also super
important, it "houses" the Critical Auxiliary Feedwater (CAF) Pumps
which cool the reactor directly in an emergency. But not to worry,
the owner of the plant says these CAF pumps are 7.5 INCHES higher than the expected flood levels, so no further protection is needed. And the Lap Dog NRC "agreed" with the owner.
Amazingly,
in an area subject to Hurricane flooding, and a steady attack of salt
air, both critical "structures" are open air, they don't even have walls
to protect the equipment. See Salmon colored highlight.
Amazingly though, since 1980, they reduced the maximum flood level. It used to be 22.5 MLW
(Mean
Low Water Datum). See further below the new Max Level is 17.5 NAVD88
(A new Datum set in 1988 which is 2.21 feet higher than MLW see
link). Them bottom line though, is that even though there was a Datum
change, they still reduced the level of the maximum probably flood,
AFTER FUKUSHIMA. Rather than get safer, they became more risky.
In
the NRC report below, their 2016 design basis HAS BEEN REDUCED to 17.3
feet still water, and 19.1 feet with waves. Wow cool, 200 MPH winds
and only generating waves of 1.8 feet.
Then they back it down again, see the blue highlight below.
Here
is the NRC report on Turkey Point Flooding. They cite tabulated
values and summaries, but these are strategically not included with the
document. They want as few people as possible to understand the
situation and assumptions, which
a summary table would make it too easy. Only those with the time,
knowledge, and patience to do it will see how horribly inept their plans
are. https://www.nrc.gov/docs/ML1714/ML17143A034.pdf
I
wonder if they even have food and water for a few days. South Texas
Nuclear forced one of its workers to drive through flood waters to get
food because they ran out after not even 2 days.
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As
we saw in Texas, they kept the Nuclear Plant at 100% Power even though
predicted flooding was higher than their design basis for the Nuclear
Plant.
Now the stronger Irma is predicted for a direct
hit on both nuclear plants in Florida. The captured NRC does not have
the balls to demand a prompt shutdown.
I have made
contact with both plants and asked them if they have a definite
time-frame that they will shut down for safety. Neither one has
responded as of 30 minutes ago.
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From our Friends at All Things Nuclear
The fire protection system at the plant was disabled when winds
knocked a high tower tank onto a 500,000 gallon tank containing water
for the fire protection system. Figure 2 shows the blue base of the high
tower tank (B) and the green walls and siding of the demolished water
tank (A). Figure 3 shows the red fire protection system piping snapped
in two when the high tower tank smashed the 500,000 gallon tank. The
high tower tank was intended to supply water by gravity feed for
fighting fires while the tank held water that diesel-driven and
electric-motor-driven fire pumps could deliver for fire fighting. Figure 2 Figure 3.
In addition, the winds severely cracked the exhaust stack on the Unit
1 oil-fired plant. Figure 4 shows a close-up of the cracked exhaust
stack. If’ the damaged stack had fallen, it could have landed on the
building housing the emergency diesel generators for the nuclear units.
Considering that the diesel generators were the only source of ac power
at the plant for several days, it was extremely fortunate that the
leaning stack of Turkey Point did not fall. Figure 4
Our Takeaway
A nuclear plant should be designed to withstand the forces of nature
expected at its location. Hurricanes with winds up to 175 miles per hour
occur in south Florida. A good design would not have high winds disable
the fire water system and seriously challenge the backup power system.
It’s just wrong to design the emergency diesel generator building to
withstand high winds but construct it within falling distance of a heavy
stack likely to be toppled by high winds.
The federal government says a proposed nuclear waste site on
the Bruce Peninsula can only go forward with Indigenous consent. Local
First Nations are calling it a victory
I will update this article as information presents itself. At the far bottom are maps of the nuclear plants and the projected trajectories. But the story below is the real story, they are set up for flooding, like Fukushima.
Added at bottom, photos of 1992 Turkey Point serious damage to critical systems. This storm was around 140MPH, Irma may be 200. The way wind power works is a squared law. Irma will be twice as strong.
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I am reviewing the NRC Flooding Analysis post Fukushima. Initial review is concerning.
Hurricane Andrew Hit Turkey Point 1992. There were a ton of
"lessons learned" generated in a letter, but not implemented. The
nuclear cartel has captured the NRC and the NRC has no balls to force
them to shut down now.
Some very serious problems were close to happening, like a stack
damaged and falling on the generator building, loss of that building
would lead to a meltdown, a Fukushima.
The on site water tank collapsed onto the fire water system,
destroying it. Any plant fire would not have been put out, and the
result….a meltdown, a Fukushima
The number 1 concern of the NRC was the timing of the shutdown, the
longer it is shutdown, the safer it is due to heat generated by
half-lives and heat removal.
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Video of Irma -- What could possibly go wrong at a nuke plant
They have several flooding scenarios, one is LIP (Locally Intense Precipitation) another is the PMSS (Probable Maximum Storm Surge).
They store emergency equipment in other buildings as part of a FLEX strategy. These systems need retrieval, movement, and installation in order to work. This is not at all realistic during a flood.
See the green highlights, they are hanging their hats on the flood going completely away in 75 minutes. SERIOUSLY!
They are basis how long their batteries will last, based upon disconnecting loads to allow the absolutely essential loads to be powered. During an emergency is not when you want to be manually disconnecting loads. You may shut off something that is absolutely essential, with disastrous meltdown results.
Then they are planning to bring a large generator from another building and install it. AGAIN, in an emergency and a flood, they are not going to be able to accomplish this work. The gensets should be in place and ready to go!!!! Not to be installed during a flood! This borders on insanity
The Component Cooling Water (CCW) area is super important because if you can't cool the reactor and associated equipment, you can have a meltdown, think Fukushima. The Turbine building is also super important, it "houses" the Critical Auxiliary Feedwater (CAF) Pumps which cool the reactor directly in an emergency. But not to worry, the owner of the plant says these CAF pumps are 7.5 INCHES higher than the expected flood levels, so no further protection is needed. And the Lap Dog NRC "agreed" with the owner.
Amazingly, in an area subject to Hurricane flooding, and a steady attack of salt air, both critical "structures" are open air, they don't even have walls to protect the equipment. See Salmon colored highlight.
Amazingly though, since 1980, they reduced the maximum flood level. It used to be 22.5 MLW
(Mean Low Water Datum). See further below the new Max Level is 17.5 NAVD88 (A new Datum set in 1988 which is 2.21 feet higher than MLW see link). Them bottom line though, is that even though there was a Datum change, they still reduced the level of the maximum probably flood, AFTER FUKUSHIMA. Rather than get safer, they became more risky.
In the NRC report below, their 2016 design basis HAS BEEN REDUCED to 17.3 feet still water, and 19.1 feet with waves. Wow cool, 200 MPH winds and only generating waves of 1.8 feet.
Then they back it down again, see the blue highlight below.
Here is the NRC report on Turkey Point Flooding. They cite tabulated values and summaries, but these are strategically not included with the document. They want as few people as possible to understand the situation and assumptions, which a summary table would make it too easy. Only those with the time, knowledge, and patience to do it will see how horribly inept their plans are. https://www.nrc.gov/docs/ML1714/ML17143A034.pdf
I wonder if they even have food and water for a few days. South Texas Nuclear forced one of its workers to drive through flood waters to get food because they ran out after not even 2 days.
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As we saw in Texas, they kept the Nuclear Plant at 100% Power even though predicted flooding was higher than their design basis for the Nuclear Plant.
Now the stronger Irma is predicted for a direct hit on both nuclear plants in Florida. The captured NRC does not have the balls to demand a prompt shutdown.
I have made contact with both plants and asked them if they have a definite time-frame that they will shut down for safety. Neither one has responded as of 30 minutes ago.
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From our Friends at All Things Nuclear
The fire protection system at the plant was disabled when winds
knocked a high tower tank onto a 500,000 gallon tank containing water
for the fire protection system. Figure 2 shows the blue base of the high
tower tank (B) and the green walls and siding of the demolished water
tank (A). Figure 3 shows the red fire protection system piping snapped
in two when the high tower tank smashed the 500,000 gallon tank. The
high tower tank was intended to supply water by gravity feed for
fighting fires while the tank held water that diesel-driven and
electric-motor-driven fire pumps could deliver for fire fighting. Figure 2 Figure 3.
In addition, the winds severely cracked the exhaust stack on the Unit
1 oil-fired plant. Figure 4 shows a close-up of the cracked exhaust
stack. If’ the damaged stack had fallen, it could have landed on the
building housing the emergency diesel generators for the nuclear units.
Considering that the diesel generators were the only source of ac power
at the plant for several days, it was extremely fortunate that the
leaning stack of Turkey Point did not fall. Figure 4
Our Takeaway
A nuclear plant should be designed to withstand the forces of nature
expected at its location. Hurricanes with winds up to 175 miles per hour
occur in south Florida. A good design would not have high winds disable
the fire water system and seriously challenge the backup power system.
It’s just wrong to design the emergency diesel generator building to
withstand high winds but construct it within falling distance of a heavy
stack likely to be toppled by high winds.
