Unit 3 did the Reactor or the Spent Fuel Pool Blow up

A troll (atoms) was pointing out how my analysis of prompt criticality at reactor 3, could be wrong, and that instead it good have been a hydrogen shockwave that initiated a further explosion at the spent fuel pool.   

Indeed, that was one of my theories also.   Funny those trolls.
TROLL
you said the unit 3 was a criticalit­y without proof. Here is another plausible explainati­on and quite frankly, the most likely -

a hydrogen shock tube - not a criticalit­y

http://www­.youtube.c­om/watch?v­=DGnKN7NzY­ik

Funny, the link above worked, and 60 minutes after I pimped this out around the net it went away, now its back here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q3ljfLvHww&feature=youtu.be

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Check the video it is really good.   However, one thing.   Reactor 3 is gone, I mean completely gone.   They are big and yellow, it is not there anymore.   Only some fragments of yellow in the rubble.   Check all the photo and film docs....reactor 3 (the steel containment itself, gone away)

Also that is possible, the whole spent fuel pool could have been shockwaved into a major blast, aerosolizing a good portion of the fuel pool.

Same results--human race poisoned, that could also explain the 2600% over baseline density of uranium in air that EPA reported.

UPDATE: I found the RADNET link direct, the proof of all that uranium in the air.
http://www.epa.gov/japan011/docs/rert/radnet-cart-filter-final.pdf

And page 9 of this report shows the Honolulu baseline and the EPA data being 2600% higher.

http://www.box.com/s/63b7e9gfxpehi968x8ax

Radiation Detector Usage Tips - How to Use a Geiger

I'll be adding to this "Tips on Geiger Counter, Radiation Detector Usage"


From time to time.  Eventually I will make it, it's own page (those tab thingys near the top, the filing cabinet, ya know)


But I already have 20 pages, and that is the limit for Blogger.    So I may have to start another Blog and link to it.   

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Good to see you have purchased a Geiger counter. Please post your background radiation readings in the enenews Radiation Monitoring Data forum once you have mastered it. The more information provided by everyone the better.

A couple tips.

If you do ground or external measurements on snow or wet surfaces make sure your Geiger counter in a sealed zip lock plastic bag. this is to protect it from contamination, and the elements. After out door use wash your hands and put on a pair of surgical gloves to remove it from the bag. Otherwise you could contaminated the Geiger counter.

Some of you use your Geiger counter to test food. Don't place it directly against fruit and vegetables etc., the surface contact could also contaminate your Geiger counter and prevent it from providing accurate measurements in the future. Put food for testing in a plastic bag first.

Geiger Counters are not sensitive enough to be of much use testing food or liquids unless the food or liquid is badly contaminated it won't show anything above your background level.

You really need a scintillator or spectrometer to do food and liquid testing properly, and the skills to work this equipment properly. Then again Geiger counter testing of food, or liquids before consumption is better than nothing.

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Took 2 months to process, but late than never.

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I kept putting this off because it was never in stock.   Finally, just placed the order and then was patient.   I actually feel alot better about having SOME TYPE of radiation detector.

There is alot to detecting radiation, and I don't know it all, but will learn alot more and will share it.

100 holes in the so called safety vessel, the reactor must have lots of holes to work.

In response to pro-nuke Mike at Huffpost----
Ill put this at Da Pimp for safe storage.

Mike, you know those "reactor vessels" seem so "secure" heavy steel, protecting the dangerous nuclear process.    Makes the public feel OK that it is locked inside a heavy steel jar....but the weird part is that they have to put like 100 holes into the reactor vessel, its like why even bother to make it thick if you are going to put all those holes in it anyway....

And the way to "control"
 the reaction is through lots of holes right in the bottom.   Sure this isn't preferred, just that nuke fuels have limited handling capability, so they load in from the top, and the control rods which are as long as the fuel rods, are pushed in from the bottom.

Surely not a great design, but we are limited by reality, I just don't like all those holes.   That is where the corium escapes most easy in most meltdowns.  

 I just don't like that corium stuff, i hear its like those spent rods...if you are close enough to look at it, you die.

I just don't like all those holes, I don't feel like that stuff is really in a secure jar, way too many holes.  

Green Road to NO Reactor 3

Green Road had this reply to some MSM talking about dangers at the complex.  Check the links!
Green Road posts some good stuff!!!

He does speak with a GRAIN of truth.. Anyone trying to enter the reactor would decide it is too dangerous, because all that is left is Radioactive RUBBLE, spent fuel rod pieces, melted corium bits and radioactive dust, plus emissions coming from whatever is melting down into the ground under what is left of the building.
Yup, way too dangerous to even go close to that Pandora's Box of horrors.
WHERE IS FUKUSHIMA REACTOR 3?
http://youtu.be/0ZBYQ5opMLs
Analysis of #3 Explosion
http://youtu.be/1Q3ljfLvHww
Destroyed Spent Fuel Pool SFP3 of Reactor Unit 3 at Fukushima Daiichi 8 May 2011
http://youtu.be/KugIrnThul0
UN agency’s report of 2nd explosion at Reactor 3 must have been made after consulting with RSMC Tokyo: EX-SKF
http://enenews.com/un-agencys-report-of-2nd-explosion-at-reactor-3-must-have-been-made-after-consulting-with-rsmc-tokyo-report

NASA Warning and a Rad Handbook from DOE a good one

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2006/10mar_stormwarning/

Here is the DOE Handbook, good reading actually.

http://www.box.com/s/47n87m33nhplx4daxeyx

List of nuke in US and links

v d e Nuclear power in the United States
Reactors	NRC Region I (Northeast) Beaver Valley Calvert Cliffs FitzPatrick Ginna Hope Creek Indian Point Limerick Millstone Nine Mile Point Oyster Creek Peach Bottom Pilgrim Salem Seabrook Susquehanna Three Mile Island Vermont Yankee NRC Region II (South) Browns Ferry Brunswick Catawba Crystal River Farley Harris Hatch McGuire North Anna Oconee Robinson St. Lucie Sequoyah Summer Surry Turkey Point Vogtle Watts Bar NRC Region III (Midwest) Arnold Braidwood Byron Clinton Cook Davis-Besse Dresden Fermi Kewaunee LaSalle Monticello Palisades Perry Point Beach Prairie Island Quad Cities NRC Region IV (West) Arkansas Callaway Columbia Comanche Peak Cooper Diablo Canyon Fort Calhoun Grand Gulf Palo Verde River Bend San Onofre South Texas Waterford Wolf Creek Closed Big Rock Point CVTR Connecticut Yankee EBR I EBR II Elk River Fort St. Vrain Hanford Site Humboldt Bay La Crosse Maine Yankee Pathfinder Piqua Rancho Seco Sodium Reactor Experiment Saxton SL-1 Shippingport Shoreham Trojan Vallecitos Yankee Rowe Zion Cancelled Allens Creek Atlantic Bailly Barton Black Fox Blue Hills Bodega Bay Clinch River Douglas Point Erie Forked River Fulton Greene County Greenwood 2, 3 Hartsville Haven James Port Marble Hill Midland (converted to natural gas) Montague NEP-Project Norco Offshore Pebble Springs Perkins Phipps Bend Sears Isle Skagit Somerset (converted to coal) South River Stanislaus Sterling Sundesert Tyrone WPPSS 1 3 4 5 Yellow Creek Zimmer (converted to coal) Future Bell Bend Bellefonte Galena Lee Levy Victoria
Nuclear power in the United States NRC regions Anti-nuclear movement in the United States List of US nuclear reactors List of cancelled nuclear plants in the United States

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Hey Mikey, He promotes Nukes, He Likes it

Hey Mikey, You are lying, your little trusted industry and governmental sites lie through through teeth.    They say Fukushima Dai-Ichi 5 and 6 are operating, and same at Daini!    I thought Daini had some cracked reactors, came real close to melting down.

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Great nuclear informatio­n at these sites:
http://wor­ld-nuclear­.org/
http://www­.nrc.gov/
http://www­.nuclearto­urist.com/
http://www­.hps.org/
nuclear news clearing house at:
http://www­.nuclearto­wnhall.com­/
Get the facts not the hype.... Knowledge is the only way to fight fear.uncer­tainty and doubt!

51 of 54 shutdown in Japan

Supposedly the nuke plants used to supply 30% of Japan's electrical needs, now it is only 4% and yet things are pretty normal.    That doesn't really make sense.

http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/english/movie/feature201202162000.html

Rude Trolls

Here is my response, the original poster, a Doctor from Oregon, was making a point, and this troll came up with an insulting pot shot...

 Doctors comment---

19 hours ago (12:27 AM)

CARLTON — Kewaunee Power Station is one of 11 nuclear plants nationwide being asked to provide informatio

­n on its analysis of how hot nuclear fuel rods could get if they lose coolant.

The Nuclear Regulatory Commission said in a news release Friday that reactor designer Westinghou­se Electric Co. might not have properly accounted for the effect of a loss of coolant on older nuclear fuel rods.
NRC regulation­s say temperatur­es must be 2,200 degrees Fahrenheit or less to keep from damaging fuel rod insulation that keeps radiation from escaping.
The 11 nuclear plants from which informatio­n was requested have computer models that estimate peak temperatur­es of 2,000 degree or more. A recent Westinghou­se analysis of a pressurize­d-water reactor, such as Kewaunee and the others have, indicated temperatur­es could vary from what was previously estimated by more than 100 degrees. That's too close to the limit, the NRC said
http://www­.greenbayp­ressgazett­e.com/arti­cle/201202­18/GPG03/2­02180606/N­RC-wants-s­afety-anal­ysis-from-­Kewaunee-p­ower-plant­?odyssey=n­av%7Chead


BOOOOOMMMM­!
See Fukushima, if it ever happened, it can happen again.....­.next time worse.....­thats how things work.

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 Troll----Westinghou­se is PWR. Fukushima is BWR. Do you even understand the difference­? Geez you need to get some proper schooling.

Your comment is abusive and insulting and here is why...you pretend that the boom potential of fuel melting is somehow eliminated by the difference between Pressurized Water Reactor and Boiling Water Reactor.   The BWR is more old school and the water and steam that run the turbines go directly through the reactor.   on the PWR you have a separation between "hell" and the turbines through a set of heat exchangers.   

But the boom potential is not lessened, you just don't have a highly radioactive turbine (mostly just tritium).    Now the bad part is that these heat exhangers now become a massive failure point.

Back in the BWR day, you knew that any part of the system could spew radiation.   In the PWR dream, you didn't have to worry about the turbine side, unless of course substandard steel alloys were being bought from China and put into the system, and failing, allowing the hellishly radioactive water to jump from the hell side to the supposedly safe side.   ---even easier to release to environment

And that is what is happening these days as nukies are harder pressed to compete with cheap energy sources like solar and wind, and natural gas.   They are taking shortcuts on materials and safety, and it is blowing up in their faces.    BOOM

I do expect this dying Bronto, the nuke cabal, to rear its ugly head a few times before sinking into the primordial ooze, but the future is clear.  

"Geez you need to get some proper schooling", now that really is abusive.   Its a pot shot.   It is unnecessary for the decorum of this communication channel that Huff Post is kind enough to offer as a venue for education and discussion.

Kewaunee bought at bargain basment price $182M in 2005

http://www.jsonline.com/business/nuclear-power-faces-headwinds-k748531-139564298.html

Trouble is, they are losing tens of millions a year.

Madison Wisconsin is not longer going to buy power from them.   Madison is buying power from PV owners and running their own natural gas turbines.

Do you think they will run this plant to the epitome of safety, or do you think they will cut corners?

They want to sell this thing, to some slum lord.

Great, slumlords running nuke plants.

Yah der Eh, why not pound a few brewski's while running dat plant

 enformable.com/2011/10/can-of-beer-discovered-in-protected-area-at-kewaunee-nuclear-power-plant/

 Trouble been there a long time
http://www.pur.com/pubs/2259.cfm 

Up for sale....hmmm, Wisconsin pays like 12 cents for electricity, I guess nukes can't run for 12 cents even when the infrastructure was bought at bargain basement prices.

http://www.power-eng.com/articles/2011/04/dominion-to-sell-kewaunee-nuclear-power-plant.html

http://www.jsonline.com/business/126097353.html 

I see---a power uprate--nice, why not throw a blower on that biiiaacch too....

http://www.nrc.gov/reactors/operating/licensing/power-uprates/pwr-stretch/kewaunee-pu.html

http://wpr.org/news/display_headline_story.cfm?storyid=27371


List of reactors and problems from the 1990's

http://cryptome.org/eyeball/npp2/npp2-eyeball.htm

Fines

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1683&dat=19970715&id=EaYaAAAAIBAJ&sjid=Hy4EAAAAIBAJ&pg=1468,9932585

http://www.power-eng.com/articles/2004/01/nrc-proposes-60000-fine-for-fitness-for-duty-violation-at-kewaunee.html


http://www.nukewatchinfo.org/radiation/index.html

Time Lapse Map of Nuke Explosions

Solar a Real Life Study, 1 year Operation 20 Panels PV, Mr. Row

Real System, Full Year of Energy Production Data, Day by Day

Solar is incredibly cheap, less than 10% of the cost of buying power from the utility here in Hawaii

This Actual 20 panel System produces at 3.3 cents per kWH.    Larger systems like 30 panels can be under 2.9 cents.

You can download the Excel here----

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Here it is Embedded into this post.




And here is a screen capture of the spreadsheet

Great Weather Plotting Resource

Sure, man's activities are affecting the planet.   How much?

How much effect is from other natural processes we may barely understand, like sun spots, cosmic rays, cloud nucleation.

Cap and Trade is just another form of thievery to concentrate power and wealth.    The whole CO2 argument is questionable at best.    Do your own research.

Nukers promote the CO2 thing as a way to justify more nuke.  

And use this really cool website to chart weather data.

Did you know cities are heat sinks.   Did you know that cities are getting bigger.    Did you know that most temperature data that people use to support "global warming" are based on thermometers in cities.  Did you know that pro-nukers lie all the time?

Did you know that you should click some ads and drop some comments?


http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/esrl-amo/from:1902/to:2011/offset/plot/wti/from:1902/to:2011/normalise

Jargon Buster

Most businesses use specialized jargon.    They do that to create confusion, during confusion they can take your money.

But nuke is a whole new level to those kind of deceptions, confusions, and lies.

This list of jargon will help

http://www.llrc.org/jargonbuster.htm

Strangle Nuke with Impediments

6930 Carroll Avenue, #340, Takoma Park, MD 20912; 301-270-6477; nirsnet@nirs.org; www.nirs.org

TELL THE NRC:
PROTECT AMERICANS, NOT THE NUCLEAR INDUSTRY
EXPAND EMERGENCY EVACUATION ZONES AROUND U.S. REACTORS

PLUS: GOOD NEWS ON NUCLEAR LOAN PROGRAM!

February 15, 2012

Dear Friends,

Today, NIRS and 37 other organizations submitted a formal Petition for Rulemaking to the NRC to expand emergency evacuation zones around U.S. nuclear reactors and make other improvements in emergency preparedness. We're calling this the Nuclear 911 campaign.

You can join us as a co-petitioner here!

Baseline is Lie, 5% of dose is from "sun/cosmic", 48% manmade medical

THE LIE: "Background Radiation" is High, Therefore More Radiation Doesn't Matter Much

In some areas, Radon is not completely avoidable. Mostly it seeps into basements. Radon ventilation systems are very effective, they can reduce this amount at least 50% and maybe 80%, just depends how much air you want to move. So instead of a 37% of your exposure if you reduce that 80% it is 7.5%, plus 5% cosmic, and 3% soil, that is 15%. So by "so called 'natural sources" like med procedures, nuke medicine, those items are jacking up your dose like 400% to 700% from where is could be "naturally". the whole natural radiation lie, unravels as a complete joke... about half of us will contract cancer in our lives, and yet you can't prove that any one source caused it. Therefore by the "Scientific Method" radiation cannot be proven to be unsafe, therefore the PNPs Pro Nuke Pimps will state that "natural radiation" is proven to be safe, and therefore a little extra disaster radiation is OK too. Check the chart closely, the PNP lies immediately emerge.

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The truth is that TEPCO is playing a delay or wait and see game that the Japanese People cannot afford! In the very least a steam event or a massive hydrovolca­­nic explosion will make the entire complex a N☢ GO Zone, then what happens to all the spent fuel rods that are left in ALL 6 reactors?

If I was in charge, I would start N☢W and:

1. Move every remaining fuel rod (spent or otherwise) in the complex to off site locations far away from Fukushima ASAP. This will reduce the potential problems of radioactiv­­e pollution!

2. Start drilling core holes uphill from the holed reactors in an effort to reach the groundwate­­r and then pump it out before it reaches the corium(s), in effect creating a "dry" buffer around the corium(s).

3. Immediatel­­y fill-in th breakwater and start constructi­­on on a "coffer dam" that would then allow them to pump seawater away from the holed reactors that would prevent seawater from contacting the corium(s) in effect creating another "dry" buffer around the corium(s).

4. Open the site to Internatio­­nal experts to make better additional assessment­­s!

---> Waiting will only save TEPCO money, but not save Japan (or the World) from the risk of Global radioactiv­­e pollution!

Wow, yet another great link! Survival Japan

http://survivaljapan.wordpress.com/2012/02/15/civic-group-files-petition-with-osaka-city-over-nuclear-power/